NP in 2023 may end up remaining the most difficult varsity team to make.
They definitely were in 2021. This year, they had the strongest #7 at NXN.
Shetty’s best is 15:18 for 3 miles.
However, NP brings back 7 guys with sub 15:54 PBs. In addition, they have 3 more with sub 16:20 PB plus a bunch of 17:XX (Shetty’s best last year was 17:12) and young Cantu who should join the team next year.
15:18 may not be fast enough to make the team next year. They will be deep (deepest in the country?) but will obviously be missing the low sticks.
Add in sophomore transfer Braden Herrera from Buena. He has a 16:25 5k PR and a sub-10 3200 PR.
He will be running in the Meet of Champions for Newbury Park this spring.
Now this varsity team will be even more competitive to make.
Their top 5 go from 15:47 (3 miles) to 15:41. So not a big difference.
He would be #3 after Doshi and Shertty. So another good guy, but what really matters to them is to have 5 guys improve by 1 minute next year. I guess they simply have another guy that can try to do that.
Now this varsity team will be even more competitive to make.
Their top 5 go from 15:47 (3 miles) to 15:41. So not a big difference.
He would be #3 after Doshi and Shertty. So another good guy, but what really matters to them is to have 5 guys improve by 1 minute next year. I guess they simply have another guy that can try to do that.
Dickran and Porter can be good scorers for them.
In these results you will notice that Dickran ran a 4:26 1600 and Porter ran a 4:30 1600. Both beat Shetty.
Dickran really stepped up during track season. Many people step up big from freshman year to sophomore year.
During last track season, it looked like Porter was going to be the 7th man for the team since he ran a 4:26, and was the #2 guy from class of 2024. But during XC season he must have some sickness or an injury since he hasn’t run in many races and when he has, his times were not very fast for him.
Schohn and Guevara were their 8th and 9th runners last fall. Guevara transferred in without moving so he has to sit out for some races this track season. But during XC he can run varsity from the start since he transferred in before last fall.
No track results from Schohn. Not quite sure what is going on there.
Freshman Noah Sloan ran a 9:41 this spring. Being a freshman, he may make a big jump next year.
Their top 5 go from 15:47 (3 miles) to 15:41. So not a big difference.
He would be #3 after Doshi and Shertty. So another good guy, but what really matters to them is to have 5 guys improve by 1 minute next year. I guess they simply have another guy that can try to do that.
Dickran and Porter can be good scorers for them.
In these results you will notice that Dickran ran a 4:26 1600 and Porter ran a 4:30 1600. Both beat Shetty.
Dickran really stepped up during track season. Many people step up big from freshman year to sophomore year.
During last track season, it looked like Porter was going to be the 7th man for the team since he ran a 4:26, and was the #2 guy from class of 2024. But during XC season he must have some sickness or an injury since he hasn’t run in many races and when he has, his times were not very fast for him.
Schohn and Guevara were their 8th and 9th runners last fall. Guevara transferred in without moving so he has to sit out for some races this track season. But during XC he can run varsity from the start since he transferred in before last fall.
No track results from Schohn. Not quite sure what is going on there.
Freshman Noah Sloan ran a 9:41 this spring. Being a freshman, he may make a big jump next year.
Dickran and Porter are just better at track. It's not the same as XC. Dickran ran close to 2:00 as an 8th grader. I wouldn't expect them to be major factors in the fall.
Dickran really stepped up during track season. Many people step up big from freshman year to sophomore year.
During last track season, it looked like Porter was going to be the 7th man for the team since he ran a 4:26, and was the #2 guy from class of 2024. But during XC season he must have some sickness or an injury since he hasn’t run in many races and when he has, his times were not very fast for him.
Schohn and Guevara were their 8th and 9th runners last fall. Guevara transferred in without moving so he has to sit out for some races this track season. But during XC he can run varsity from the start since he transferred in before last fall.
No track results from Schohn. Not quite sure what is going on there.
Freshman Noah Sloan ran a 9:41 this spring. Being a freshman, he may make a big jump next year.
Dickran and Porter are just better at track. It's not the same as XC. Dickran ran close to 2:00 as an 8th grader. I wouldn't expect them to be major factors in the fall.
In XC it’s probably gonna be about sticking with teammates for them
What’s more interesting is what boys teams will make it out of CA next year
Ventura will be unstoppable at CIF
Trabuco Hills returns their 1-4. They just need a fifth man to step up. They return their 6th as well. They got 11th in the merge at state.
If there will be an at large here are some teams to watch:
San Clemente really went off at NXN and returns 3 scorers + a freshman that raced there and can grow, mature and step up. Lots of other guys at the top of JV chomping at the bit to finally make varsity
Oakdale. Almost made NXN and beat the #2 team in the country at RunningLane. I think they will be a threat if they improve the backend of their scoring 5 and if Oliveras are healthy. If mason didn’t get hit by a bus they would have made NXN.
Dana Hills. We used to see them all the time at NXN. They only lose 2 guys. In 2019 they reloaded so well
Oakdale and Dana Hills are in the same division so they will have each other to push. I’m sure both will want to win the state title as badly as one another
IDK about Oakdale. I mean, I'm pulling for them because they're right up the road from me, but they're graduating 2 of their top 3 and it was a decent gap back to #4-5 all year long.
Getting Mason fully recovered from his bus accident will certainly help, but they'll need a couple more guys to develop if they want to challenge for NXN
I have to agree. Oakdale’s 4th and 5th nonsenior runners have 3200 PRs of 10:03 and 10:27. That’s not going to get it done. No depth beyond that at all either.
There are many CA teams looking to be better than Oakdale next year.
Oakdale will need their 4th and 5th to step up to even have a shot at NXN.
Not an NXN winning team (yet), but this team certainly has a shot at making NXN
They also have current junior Brandon Guevara with PRs of 15:52 (3-mile), 10:02 3200 (only ran once) and 4:38 mile. He is a transfer so he is ineligible to race until the middle of the season, which happened to him in cross. He should be eligible for all varsity races next fall and spring.
Also don’t forget Nathaniel Schohn (junior) who was their 8th runner in cross. But no track results yet
Not an NXN winning team (yet), but this team certainly has a shot at making NXN
They also have current junior Brandon Guevara with PRs of 15:52 (3-mile), 10:02 3200 (only ran once) and 4:38 mile. He is a transfer so he is ineligible to race until the middle of the season, which happened to him in cross. He should be eligible for all varsity races next fall and spring.
Also don’t forget Nathaniel Schohn (junior) who was their 8th runner in cross. But no track results yet
Still in March
…same, except that Shetty now at 9:36 (instead of 10:13). Nice improvement since his freshman year. 12:14 (9), 10:52 (10), 9:36 - not done (11)
They also have current junior Brandon Guevara with PRs of 15:52 (3-mile), 10:02 3200 (only ran once) and 4:38 mile. He is a transfer so he is ineligible to race until the middle of the season, which happened to him in cross. He should be eligible for all varsity races next fall and spring.
Also don’t forget Nathaniel Schohn (junior) who was their 8th runner in cross. But no track results yet
Still in March
…same, except that Shetty now at 9:36 (instead of 10:13). Nice improvement since his freshman year. 12:14 (9), 10:52 (10), 9:36 - not done (11)
What a great run Newbury park has had. Great to see a high school team dominate and preform at that level for the past few years. Although with their only returner, Doshi, finishing outside off the top 100 today. It’s fair to say that they will no longer be the best program and there will be room for another team to step up.
Who cares? This is high school.. nobody actually cares which teams are "dominating"
I have a friend who's son was at the meet. The meet was a workout for them. Seymour ran the 1600m in 4:12 and jogged the first 800 and apparently split 2:00 last 800, he also ran the 800m before the 3200m which he paced Shetty thru about 6 laps. Aaron Cantu did the 800m before the 3200m as well.
It's important to note that Newbury Park has three or four other guys hardly mentioned in this thread, guys who are seniors who have run 4:08, 1:48.8/4:03/8:03/nxn champ, 4:00/8:30s/13:43, 3:40 (=3:58.5c). As for when NP will be finished, that's some time in the future. We still have months left in outdoor track to see what the other guys can do, and by the end of xc, who is to say that they won't have five guys sub- or low 15?
It's important to note that Newbury Park has three or four other guys hardly mentioned in this thread, guys who are seniors who have run 4:08, 1:48.8/4:03/8:03/nxn champ, 4:00/8:30s/13:43, 3:40 (=3:58.5c). As for when NP will be finished, that's some time in the future. We still have months left in outdoor track to see what the other guys can do, and by the end of xc, who is to say that they won't have five guys sub- or low 15?
Number one, the twins are not running for NP. They are not part of the team.
Number two, the premise of this thread is NP is not going to be the same, or even close to it, after this class graduates.
So, are they finished? Yes, they will not be even close to the national presence they have been the past 4-5 years. Their reign is over. Will they be terrible? Not at all. They have some solid young runners who if they continue to improve, may be factors at the CIF level in a couple years, but they will not be a national title contender in the foreseeable future.
Number one, nothing I said was incorrect. They are still at Newbury Park, even though they are running for the club, not the school.
Number two, Newbury Park isn't finished this year. This thread has been claiming they're finished while they are literally the strongest high school distance program in history this year. When this year is finished, you can use that language, though it may well be inaccurate because they have a lot of budding talent.
So, to sum up, their reign isn't over. Come back after NXN and talk.
Number one, nothing I said was incorrect. They are still at Newbury Park, even though they are running for the club, not the school.
Number two, Newbury Park isn't finished this year. This thread has been claiming they're finished while they are literally the strongest high school distance program in history this year. When this year is finished, you can use that language, though it may well be inaccurate because they have a lot of budding talent.
So, to sum up, their reign isn't over. Come back after NXN and talk.
Are we talking about NP high school or Brosnan's club? They are not the same thing and you can't combine them. I think this thread is talking about NP high school, which is definitely done and not the best distance program in the country in track. After this year, they are definitely washed. The budding talent you're talking about is solid, but not even the same universe as what the current senior class is (or was as 9th and 10th graders). They will be a good team in their county and a solid team at the CIF level, but they will not be going to NXN. I know you really have a hard time accepting it, but the 2 sets of brother's made this team. Enhanced by some good coaching they attracted and some really good runners to attend NP and raised the level of everyone by the mass of talent pushing each other every day. It was the perfect storm, but the Youngs and Sahlmans were an anomaly that will never be seen again.
