Making it really hard for Nico to win a title. Will he ever even win one? I though he was gonna win a lot and Tuohy will not.
I thought so too, Nico Young came in the NCAA as the top freshman in the XC Champs, Tuohy was also but Young placed higher and Mantz was quite amazed by him. Never would have guessed this is how things would turn out. Young still haven't developed a kick, while Tuohy has one of the best kick as a distance runner. Nico has better Coach too, I don't know what is happening with him.
Making it really hard for Nico to win a title. Will he ever even win one? I though he was gonna win a lot and Tuohy will not.
I thought so too, Nico Young came in the NCAA as the top freshman in the XC Champs, Tuohy was also but Young placed higher and Mantz was quite amazed by him. Never would have guessed this is how things would turn out. Young still haven't developed a kick, while Tuohy has one of the best kick as a distance runner. Nico has better Coach too, I don't know what is happening with him.
I wouldnt count a 13:15i as a bad race. Nico is probably 1 or 2 moves away from running 13-flat.
8 collegians under 13:20? 15:15 is an off day? 2023 will be wild!
2 years ago, if you run under 15:20, you're the favorite to win nationals, today, if you run under 15:20, you're just one of the 5 contenders to win nationals.... dang. Theres going to be a lot of sub 15 collegiate runners by the end of 2023. Same goes for the collegiate men going sub 13!
It seems to me like you’re confusing world athletics points with times
No. Why don’t you simply go to the IAAF site, and look at Nico Young’s profile? It lists his Indoor PB. Is there a dispute that their listing is not accurate?
Posted this in another thread, outlining why things are so fast. Some of these factors will work against fast time in a few years (American birth rate), some (like international participation) will keep things fast. Eventually super shoes will be normal and we won't give them much thought, but they make things faster, for sure:
1) Super shoes are faster; I think the hype is overblown but they help
2) BU is known as a fast track; but again overblown there are other factors making the NCAA real fast
3) Internet and connection has made American HS running substantially faster than two decades ago; college recruiting pool is more talented
4) More scholarships and internationals than ever before in NCAA makes talent pool deeper as well
5) To go along with size of talent pool, we are approaching an end of the 90s 00s baby boom; more kids for colleges to pull from (that will change here shortly)
6) COVID 5/6th years are making fields deeper (also will change soon) We are in a perfect storm for having unprecedented fast fields.
Some of these factors will change (COVID years will eventually graduate/birth rate dropped greatly in 08). Technology is not likely to significantly upgrade again in the near future. Internationals are going to feature even more prominently in the NCAA when American birth rate crunch hits colleges. Things will probably slow down a bit in a few years.
Posted this in another thread, outlining why things are so fast. Some of these factors will work against fast time in a few years (American birth rate), some (like international participation) will keep things fast. Eventually super shoes will be normal and we won't give them much thought, but they make things faster, for sure:
1) Super shoes are faster; I think the hype is overblown but they help
2) BU is known as a fast track; but again overblown there are other factors making the NCAA real fast
3) Internet and connection has made American HS running substantially faster than two decades ago; college recruiting pool is more talented
4) More scholarships and internationals than ever before in NCAA makes talent pool deeper as well
5) To go along with size of talent pool, we are approaching an end of the 90s 00s baby boom; more kids for colleges to pull from (that will change here shortly)
6) COVID 5/6th years are making fields deeper (also will change soon) We are in a perfect storm for having unprecedented fast fields.
Some of these factors will change (COVID years will eventually graduate/birth rate dropped greatly in 08). Technology is not likely to significantly upgrade again in the near future. Internationals are going to feature even more prominently in the NCAA when American birth rate crunch hits colleges. Things will probably slow down a bit in a few years.
Throwing out the 20/21 covid season, last year's US indoor men's 5,000 season was the fastest ever by over 20 seconds when averaging top 100 US men's times. Take, for example, the 2017/18 - top 100 times for that season averaged over 30 seconds slower (14:18) than last year's indoor season (13:41). This year is already faster than any previous year not counting last season. Although Boston's track is extremely fast, it existed pre-super shoes. The only thing that has recently changed is shoes.
Even if you go before super spikes college distance running was getting more competitive. In 2010 a 1:52/1:53 800 would get you into D2 nationals, in 2019 right before super spikes you needed 1:50 flat, and now you need 1:49 high. In 2019 people were still racing in the Nike Victory’s which came out in like 2010 or 2011, so it wasn’t just the shoes. The population increase that the above poster mentioned may actually be a major factor that is overlooked. I finished college in 2019, and had no idea that the 90s and early 2000s were a baby boom type of era with lots of kids.