Valencia was a reminder once again, as if we needed any more reminders, that the marathon is an event all to itself. Having super fast track, or even half times, are nice to have, but no guarantee of an automatic commensurate time in the marathon. Gidey had a wonderful debut race, and certainly she will run faster, but no, a future world record is not ordained. Obiri and now Gidey are a reminder that you just cannot project amazing 10K and half performances to the marathon distance. Kiptum is a reminder of this too, in reverse. It might work out, but just as likely not to.
"Gidey would struggle home, running 35:29 for her final 7.195k (7:56 mile pace)." From your recap.... if she ran 2:16:49, your math puts her at 1:41:20ish for 35k, or sub 2:02:15 marathon pace.
Brilliant. Lol.How many people on this forum get the joke though?
Anyway, I think Valencia is now the marathon to go to for a Brilliant debut and PRs. Back in the day it used to be Rotterdam marathon. Perhaps in future it will rival Berlin for place to go for world record attempts.
About Kiptum,he is the real deal.Notice he is physically built like an Ethiopian runner.Has more of an Ethiopian attitude too.
It does look like the first 5k splits for all women are off on the official results, by like 3:52 or so for Gidey. Gidey's first 5k looks to be 19:59 and Beriso was 19:00....
Even so, that puts Gidey's last 2.195km at 6:19 pace... and John's math is still off.
Winner is like the bronze medalist at Tokyo women’s 10000m. Gidey is probably shocked she stayed with her. Why did this winner not even selected for the Kenyan marathon team at OR22?
Agreed. If she really did her last 4 miles (which is less than 7k) at 7:56 pace, then just by going 5:56 pace she could have lopped off 8 minutes and run 2:08. Gidey is fast, but not that fast...
Coverage was reasonably good, ad free and commentators that weren't annoying.
However, a race like this should have KM splits or at least markers, I didn't see any. Also the update of 5km splits was either delayed or missing and projections for females were inaccurate, which was why despite putting the hammer down, she actually went 'further' from the WR projection
One thing is that Kiptum has skipped the track and is attacking the marathon fresh in his career as a 23 year-old, after years of fast half-marathons.
Geb already showed us what athletes are capable of, before the era of new shoes, at the end of a long 17-year career staring with juniors, cross-country, track, and finally the marathon in the twilight of his career.
Kipchoge and Bekele showed us what difference the new shoes make, again for two athletes at the end of lengthy careers starting as juniors, after cross-country and track.
It should be unsurprising to find young 20-somethings able to run faster than their 35+ year-old selves, and running similarly world record threatening times under ideal weather conditions, in a well paced race, on a fast course.
My only wish this year is that www.letsrun.com forums installs a filter that delay for 24 or 48 hours ALL posts containing the word "doping" and its synonyms etc - so as to make threads readable again.
+1
The constant barrage of baseless accusations has already ruined this forum and is only hurting the sport.
The constant barrage of doping busts - which you cannot see (they are all "victims") - has done more to damage the sport.
Valencia was a reminder once again, as if we needed any more reminders, that the marathon is an event all to itself. Having super fast track, or even half times, are nice to have, but no guarantee of an automatic commensurate time in the marathon. Gidey had a wonderful debut race, and certainly she will run faster, but no, a future world record is not ordained. Obiri and now Gidey are a reminder that you just cannot project amazing 10K and half performances to the marathon distance. Kiptum is a reminder of this too, in reverse. It might work out, but just as likely not to.
One thing is that Kiptum has skipped the track and is attacking the marathon fresh in his career as a 23 year-old, after years of fast half-marathons.
Geb already showed us what athletes are capable of, before the era of new shoes, at the end of a long 17-year career staring with juniors, cross-country, track, and finally the marathon in the twilight of his career.
Kipchoge and Bekele showed us what difference the new shoes make, again for two athletes at the end of lengthy careers starting as juniors, after cross-country and track.
It should be unsurprising to find young 20-somethings able to run faster than their 35+ year-old selves, and running similarly world record threatening times under ideal weather conditions, in a well paced race, on a fast course.
We should never be surprised at what is possible in doped sport.
Valencia was a reminder once again, as if we needed any more reminders, that the marathon is an event all to itself. Having super fast track, or even half times, are nice to have, but no guarantee of an automatic commensurate time in the marathon. Gidey had a wonderful debut race, and certainly she will run faster, but no, a future world record is not ordained. Obiri and now Gidey are a reminder that you just cannot project amazing 10K and half performances to the marathon distance. Kiptum is a reminder of this too, in reverse. It might work out, but just as likely not to.
You sound more like a typical old man ranting about nothing rather than a wise old man. Just because you didn't think she would get the WR doesn't mean you should subject everyone to your thinly veiled gloating.
You probably posted the same pretentious garbage when Bekele missed the WR by 2 seconds. What a joke.