Can Katelyn Tuohy achieve sub 15 at Boston Season Opener ?

Did someone test the race announcers? Couldn't stand them

Not true. There are VERY few schools that have a women who has run 2:01 indoors.

Sounds like Flotrack didn’t show the pack—I was there today so I figured I’d share. Cook found herself boxed in several times when trying to make moves in the later stages of the race and got a bit tripped up at one point (lots of chaos with lapped runners, etc.). This was a super strong run for her!

Just a note about the pace. (I doubt this would have made a difference in the outcome) but the pace through 3k was slightly behind in 9:06.7.

Also, a lot of the pro racers DNF'd, like Fulton, Hasz, Jennings. I wonder why that was?

This is, as the Nobel Prize winner Wolfgang Pauli used to say, "Not even wrong."

1) No!

If you had bothered to read the "Athlete Test History" page I linked to, you'd see that it includes "all tests on U.S. athletes" carried out by the USADA. USADA specifically says that the page lists both "in and out-of-competition..." tests. Since the USADA did the drugs testing for USAs, if KT had been tested at USAs, she would be listed on the USADA website.

2) Yes, there are drugs tests at the US Championships, but not every athlete is tested. As the USATF's Notification of Drug Testing says: USADA can test any entrant, but "typically selects place finishers and random athletes." Since KT did not place, she is only subject to random testing. As I pointed out above, if she had been tested at USAs, she'd be in the USADA "Athlete Test History." Since she isn't listed, she didn't get tested.

So if you run at the US trials you are potentially subject to random testing. So if you do not want to be subject to random testing, you would avoid the trials. Not complcated.

Like in the 5000m final and regional?

This is true, but so what?

As you say, it's not complicated: I was responding to a post by your fellow fan-girl, SemiDaze. In her post, SD implied KT was tested at USAs, not that she might have been tested. I was simply pointing out that according to the USADA, SD was wrong -- contrary to what SD wrote, KT wasn't tested at USAs.

You need to pay attention, Slick. If you don't, you risk losing the plot, as you just did.

We both know you are better than this.

Alternatively that she subjected herself to the possibility of testing by running at the trials. Again not that complex. Although your attempts at condescension are comical.

I stand corrected if that list really is the whole list of tested runners.

If you read the USATF page for the US Champs, they stated that athletes competing in the events are subject to urine and blood testing, never said "random" or winners. It says athletes competing. Katelyn was competing!

USADA not requesting for Katelyn to get tested means that they don't suspect her of doping, only trolls think shes doping, she's had a natural steady progression and not dropping PRs by 2 minutes in a year.

Also, d3 fans be tripping

put them in the same race when the xc champs are well rested

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.. get over yourself - seriously you are ruining our ability to cheer for her your fandom is scary obnoxious

1) Yes, they do say "random" and the rest of it. I used quotation marks in my earlier post (*186 above) because I was literally quoting from the USATF's "Notification of Drug Testing" page. (This is the page that is linked to on the USATF's National's page.)

The 3d section of that page, titled, "Be Aware," says, and I quote:

"Testing may take place at any time or after any round - preliminary, qualifying, or final - USADA typically selects place finishers and random athletes."

2) You are reading too much into KT not getting drug tested at USAs.

It is unlikely that USADA has any opinion about KT. That's because, even if KT is doping, she's not their problem -- they generally have no jurisdiction over her. The NCAA (along with the NFL, MLB, NBA and NHL), is outside the WADA/USADA drug testing system. As a result, USADA can only test NCAA athletes when they: a) run at USATF events; or, b) compete at the Olympics or Worlds (these athletes could also be tested in the lead up to the Olympics or WCs). Otherwise, NCAA athletes are not the USADA's business.

In other words, it is likely that KT did not get any special treatment one way or the other. She didn't get tested b/c her number didn't come up. Period.

(If you want more detail, see the explanation on the on the USADA's FAQ page.)

You are right. My response was lazy and rude. I apologize.

I appreciate your patience in pointing out my mistake.

Incorrect. If you do not want to be subject to random drug testing then you can't be a professional runner. Professional runners can be tested at any time, in or out of competition.

Avoiding the trials would NOT prevent someone from being subject to a drug test.

Obviously they are not afraid, despite being "professional" runners, some clubs do have systematic doping. Random testings do not guarantee catching a doper, a cheater would always want to be one step ahead. Not getting caught after a random test despite doping gives athletes and organizations confidence that they could remain undetected for the next one.