I don’t really have an issue with runners in front drifting to make it hard for chasers to pass them. Downvote away.
Also I can’t stop laughing at the losers talking about police reports and criminal charges.
You are on board with trying to not let people pass you for 4th place at a Turkey Trot? Kind of says a lot about the reasons for your insecurity, tiny.
Also, you are ignoring the blatant hip check into the gates - he really could have injured that runner more seriously. Even if people would argue the top three at a Turkey Trot could matter, for prizes, after that really the only thing any runner would care about is their time, not placing. Drifting at a Turkey Trot is a loser move. Adding the hip check was just one messed up insecure dude.
I don’t really have an issue with runners in front drifting to make it hard for chasers to pass them. Downvote away.
Also I can’t stop laughing at the losers talking about police reports and criminal charges.
You are on board with trying to not let people pass you for 4th place at a Turkey Trot? Kind of says a lot about the reasons for your insecurity, tiny.
Also, you are ignoring the blatant hip check into the gates - he really could have injured that runner more seriously. Even if people would argue the top three at a Turkey Trot could matter, for prizes, after that really the only thing any runner would care about is their time, not placing. Drifting at a Turkey Trot is a loser move. Adding the hip check was just one messed up insecure dude.
I’m on board with using your position in front to drift and make it harder for chasing runners to pass you.
Everything else in your post was projection and/or exaggeration.
Just to put this all to bed (and I am sure you all already know this) that's not the real Xavier. You've made him famous though and once he recovers from this it will be a hilarious story
It’s not hilarious at all. What he did is something to be ashamed of. Of course now that we know both runners escaped with relatively minor injuries but had it been a head injury, different story. I hope he looks back with shame instead of a laugh.
You do realize that your accusation might be construed as defamation and slander in a court of law, do you not?
Uh, no it can't, so I definitely do not realize it. Even MORE keyboard lawyer jive-talking. Why don't you two (2) start a class-action against me if you truly believe this, moran.
My point is if you two or any other poster have any legal skills or knowledge, you can actually contact the victim, his father who posted a video, or his training partner who has posted in this thread. You don't and you won't. Maybe the victim does not know how to start the process of filing a report with the police. But drive-by advice on a message board probably won't help the victim.
What the hell is your problem? Let the dude have some levity this has been a really hard time for him... people are making insane accusations and talking about law enforcement, coming for his EMPLOYER?? This is crazy
Just to put this all to bed (and I am sure you all already know this) that's not the real Xavier. You've made him famous though and once he recovers from this it will be a hilarious story
It’s not hilarious at all. What he did is something to be ashamed of. Of course now that we know both runners escaped with relatively minor injuries but had it been a head injury, different story. I hope he looks back with shame instead of a laugh.
Any of these things, all of them vary rare for road racing, could EASILY have happened here:
You do realize that your accusation might be construed as defamation and slander in a court of law, do you not?
Uh, no it can't, so I definitely do not realize it. Even MORE keyboard lawyer jive-talking. Why don't you two (2) start a class-action against me if you truly believe this, moran.
My point is if you two or any other poster have any legal skills or knowledge, you can actually contact the victim, his father who posted a video, or his training partner who has posted in this thread. You don't and you won't. Maybe the victim does not know how to start the process of filing a report with the police. But drive-by advice on a message board probably won't help the victim.
Hey, bubs, it was a joke.
And one i am moving on from.
How many pages is this thing going to get dragged through?
If he attempted to ram the guy it was a completely ineffectual ram - you can see from the video that the other runner continues forward, does not veer from his line at all. Right at the line, he throws his right hip and shoulder to the right. In my honest opinion, having watched the dad’s video frame by frame several times, it looked like he was trying to throw himself across the line and possibly also block his fellow competitor, which is dirty as f*ck, but a fundamentally different thing than ramming somebody into a barrier on purpose. After he throws himself in front of the other runner and across the finish line, their legs tangle and they both go down. Cutting off the other runner and trying to block him is dirty as f*ck, but a slow-motion review of the dad’s own video shows that there was no “ramming.” At worst there was an attempted ram that missed, but I really think he was “just” trying to close the door and they got tangled up. The DQ was absolutely deserved, but all of the pile-on that this guy is getting is over the top.
You're making a distinction between "ramming" and throwing his body in front of his competitor running full speed.
You can't logically make this distinction.
It's like you're saying there's a difference between elbowing somebody and getting in front of somebody, sticking your elbow in front of their face last second and having them run into it.
Obviously this works the same if you were to swerve your car in front of traffic before they can stop.
The viral video has been seen by over half a million people. It shows two runners colliding at the finish line of the Troy Turkey Trot, one of the nation's o...
Dude seems choked up about the whole ordeal. If Salvador wouldn't have looked back a bunch of times he could've beat him fair and square. Poor reporter got banged up too.
It seems that people on this thread are getting worked up while fantasizing over what they'd do if this happened to them. Seems incredibly immature. Saying it's "assault" or like a "WWE cagematch" makes it clear that you lack the capacity to appreciate Ray Mysterio or The Undertaker, let alone think about who is in the right or wrong. Xavier is a very nice guy (glad to see you're running well!). There's no doubt in my mind that this was accidental. It really looks like he was trying to keep his lead and knocked the other runner. There's no intent, no one was hurt & times weren't affected, and these types of things happen.
It seems that people on this thread are getting worked up while fantasizing over what they'd do if this happened to them. Seems incredibly immature. Saying it's "assault" or like a "WWE cagematch" makes it clear that you lack the capacity to appreciate Ray Mysterio or The Undertaker, let alone think about who is in the right or wrong. Xavier is a very nice guy (glad to see you're running well!). There's no doubt in my mind that this was accidental. It really looks like he was trying to keep his lead and knocked the other runner. There's no intent, no one was hurt & times weren't affected, and these types of things happen.
It seems that people on this thread are getting worked up while fantasizing over what they'd do if this happened to them. Seems incredibly immature. Saying it's "assault" or like a "WWE cagematch" makes it clear that you lack the capacity to appreciate Ray Mysterio or The Undertaker, let alone think about who is in the right or wrong. Xavier is a very nice guy (glad to see you're running well!). There's no doubt in my mind that this was accidental. It really looks like he was trying to keep his lead and knocked the other runner. There's no intent, no one was hurt & times weren't affected, and these types of things happen.
Everyone said Robert Young was a really nice guy too. In the end though, he wasn’t, was he?
I can't stop laughing at the losers who support guys that are so desperate to finish 4th in a fun-run that they would do this.
You have an interesting idea of the definition of “support”. Also, his place is not relevant to my comment.
I think my definition of support in the context of your post isn't complicated. You said (quote) "I don't really have an issue with runners in front drifting to make it hard for chasers to pass them". That act of "drifting" ended up with someone clattering into a steel railing and injuring themselves pretty badly and, I'm going to assume, making the rest of their thanksgiving pretty miserable. So if you don't have an issue with it then what exactly is your position? You're fine with it - you support it. I mean we are just playing stupid semantics. Like you, stupid.