Sub 1:14 HM at 14

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Yes. 70-71 minutes would be a reasonable goal for a 15:30 guy doing 80mpw.

Wear vaporflies and you should already be there.

No way I could hit 70. Maybe 72 high on a PERFECT day but that would be a stretch. I’ve done 5 mile tempos at 5:25-30is but those have felt pretty tough (maybe 10 mile pace with luck) Vapor fly idea sounds spot on, I might as well go for otq if I got them lol but I can’t afford them. Any recommended workouts to lock sub 74 in?

Update: Just soloed a 1:14:58 on rolling hills. It felt tough but it was after a full travel day and I'm happy with the effort.

I hope you're a girl with that time. If you're not, I suppose you could try checkers.

Sounds like you’re in good shape and could maybe go 1-2 minutes faster in a real race with good competition. Keep up the good work!

It’s a good time for both birthing people and men.

i prefer chess lol

Great job on that time you mention. Was that a real race, or just by yourself with a GPS watch? Tell us more when you run something again. I ran mainly 10k at your age or a little older. Good to see someone who doesn't feel the need to run mid-distance events just because they're popular with your age group. If the 1500 is genetically your best event, go ahead and do it, but if the 10k or half or full is, don't feel the need to NOT do it just because some folks think it's wrong to race on asphalt priot to your 24th birthday. Rock on!

Thank you! I ran it solo on one of the half marathon courses in the town I live in. It wasn't completely an all out effort just a really hard long run. I run with my school xc and track team and have decent times (15:30 5k/4:16 1500m) but I prefer the longer stuff and focus my training around longer stuff and good quality long runs. I'd like to try to get to 1:10:xx by the end of next summer

Cool. Though I believe your time, it's not an actual race with an actual result. It may not be much different, but it IS different. It is a step below the BTC time trials that don't seem to have any witnesses. Not a big deal, but an actual result IS more meaningful. Anyway, here's what I mainly wanted to ask:

Why run for the school's teams? I use 'teamS' plural assuming XC and T&F are 2 different, unrelated things. [That's how it was when I was in HS. You were on your own 9-1/2 months a year even if you did both, which only a couple people did. Different coaches, different athletes, no relationship or continuity between the 2 sports.]

Perhaps you're at a school with a single year-round program, but that's worse if you're pursuing an agenda outside of the school's. If your best events are 10k and up (as is true of me as a teenager and now), I honestly don't see what the school has to offer. My school gave out no free gear - not even a pair of socks. They simply didn't bring anything to the table. So I largely ignored them. I DID run XC Sophmore year - it lasted about 7 weeks - so I gave it a try and realized it was a waste of time. I know a lot of folks on this Board have written that their best friends were on the team, but if they're not.....

Just saying, someone like you who is capable of training without the hand-holding of the school doesn't need them. Unless it's a credit class, your parents don't allow participation in a sport without school supervision, or it is your primary social network, my advice is ditch the school and their coaches.

^^^ Don't listen to this guy

i can provide a strava link if you want but hopefully you just believe me. the teams are different but the same coaches and go pretty much year round (except summer) with xc winter track and outdoor track. I've contemplated training on my own, because it's definitely easier to get mileage in and half specific workouts but i see a few benefits to training with the team.

-its easier with other people to workout with

-it is good motivation (its hard to get out where I live where it gets dark at 4 and its usally 10 or below)

-i get the opportunity the race weekly

- my coach is better at training plans than i am

and all in all i just want to be on a team because I still enjoy racing shorter stuff and want to take advantage of the opportunity while it presents itself. In the summer I like to do my own thing, train really hard and i still double and work in solid half marathon specific workouts on the weekend so i'm able to stay in good shape and continue to grow my aerobic base. Do you have an reccomendations to get down to 1:10-1:12 (i know its a large marigin)