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21 years ago 08/28/2002 12:49am EDT

I was just curious as to how David Morris' time of 2:09:32 in '99 was a then American record when there were quite a few Americans who had run faster than that back in the 70's and 80's. I'm not trying to downplay David's run at all. His 2:09:32 is certainly an increible run, but I was just wandering. Salazar had a 2:08:13, plus he had several more runs in the 2:08 range/ Beardsley with a 2:08:53/ Rodgers with a 2:09:27/ and Tabb with a 2:09:31. Were these course not certified or is there some other reason reason? Just curious. Thanks for any help.

21 years ago 08/28/2002 1:05am EDT

re: RunfortheSON

Well, I know for a fact that Salazar's 2:08:13 was thrown out due to a course that was about 300 meters short. I am not sure that Salazar ran any more in the 2:08 range though, but since I'm not sure, I could be wrong.

I am not sure about the others, but it might have to do with how the measuring of courses has changed. That would be my guess. I sure someone more in the know on this question will answer it shortly.

21 years ago 08/28/2002 1:35am EDT

re: Stepay

Boston is considered an aided course so cannot be considered for records. A course has to start and finish within a certain distance of each other so that it can\'t be influenced by downhills or wind. Chicago is legit, Grandmas and California International is not.

21 years ago 08/28/2002 1:37am EDT

re: RunfortheSON

For one thing, Boston's course does not qualify for record status due to a greater than permitted net drop, I believe. The official marathon record is for a loop course, with secondary records for point-to-point within the allowed descent. So Boston records wouldn't cut it on the books. I believe Kempainen ran into the same thing.

21 years ago 08/28/2002 3:26am EDT

re: idealist

Thanks for the replys.

21 years ago 08/28/2002 3:29am EDT

re: RunfortheSON

Were was Ron Tabb's 2:09 run?

21 years ago 08/28/2002 3:31am EDT

re: idealist

Kempainen ran into a problem additionally because I think an official offered to help him stand up after he hurled during the race. The Boston course violates IAAF rules in a big way, no loop and almost 500 foot drop in elevation. There are also wind regulations that apply too. That all being said, anyone who thinks that Boston is faster because of the elevation drop is dreaming. Take some of those athletes and throw them in London or Chicago, and they would still be running times as fast or faster than David Morris . . . indeed the New York course was short when Salazar ran it.

21 years ago 08/28/2002 3:36am EDT

re: RunfortheSON

All sound good, but the fact is the IAAF does not officially recognize a world record in the marathon.

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