Shoe to train in? Shoe to race in?

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1 year ago 10/09/2022 5:30pm EDT

So for the last 15 years I've run mostly in low profile, light, flexible shoes. Lately the Nike Flex whatever, Flex Run, Flex Endurance? I dunno....not a performance based running shoe. However, I tried the Nike Flynit? I can't remember the name. Whatever the carbon plate shoe was that DID NOT have the super foam. That was back in '18 I think? That was a stiff shoe and took some time getting used to.

So my understanding of the current meta in performance running shoe design is that PEBAX based midsoles are 'the best thing ever' and when add a plate it is 'even better'.

So, any of you try hards wear a carbon plate everday?

Also, yes imma cheaterfly my way to a sub 3:00 at some point. I am heavy but still a midfoot/forefoot striker. My heels haven't touched the ground since I was two years old.

Alan

1 year ago 10/09/2022 5:39pm EDT

re: Runningart2004

Runningart2004 wrote:
My heels haven't touched the ground since I was two years old.
Alan

Light in the heels, are ya?

1 year ago 10/09/2022 5:48pm EDT

re: Runningart2004

Runningart2004 wrote:
So for the last 15 years I've run mostly in low profile, light, flexible shoes. Lately the Nike Flex whatever, Flex Run, Flex Endurance? I dunno....not a performance based running shoe. However, I tried the Nike Flynit? I can't remember the name. Whatever the carbon plate shoe was that DID NOT have the super foam. That was back in '18 I think? That was a stiff shoe and took some time getting used to.
So my understanding of the current meta in performance running shoe design is that PEBAX based midsoles are 'the best thing ever' and when add a plate it is 'even better'.
So, any of you try hards wear a carbon plate everday?
Also, yes imma cheaterfly my way to a sub 3:00 at some point. I am heavy but still a midfoot/forefoot striker. My heels haven't touched the ground since I was two years old.
Alan

The zoom fly is probably what you are thinking of. I double most days and switch between plated and not. Right now it's primarily endorphin speed 2 (nylon plate/pebax) and Nike invincible (pebax only). For long runs I'll use old vaporflys, nike tempo next% or adidas prime x. Probably not the best idea to start only with plated shoes though, I think you need to get used to them or you are going to have injury issues.

1 year ago 10/09/2022 6:38pm EDT

re: VaporBoi

VaporBoi wrote:
Runningart2004 wrote:
So for the last 15 years I've run mostly in low profile, light, flexible shoes. Lately the Nike Flex whatever, Flex Run, Flex Endurance? I dunno....not a performance based running shoe. However, I tried the Nike Flynit? I can't remember the name. Whatever the carbon plate shoe was that DID NOT have the super foam. That was back in '18 I think? That was a stiff shoe and took some time getting used to.
So my understanding of the current meta in performance running shoe design is that PEBAX based midsoles are 'the best thing ever' and when add a plate it is 'even better'.
So, any of you try hards wear a carbon plate everday?
Also, yes imma cheaterfly my way to a sub 3:00 at some point. I am heavy but still a midfoot/forefoot striker. My heels haven't touched the ground since I was two years old.
Alan
The zoom fly is probably what you are thinking of. I double most days and switch between plated and not. Right now it's primarily endorphin speed 2 (nylon plate/pebax) and Nike invincible (pebax only). For long runs I'll use old vaporflys, nike tempo next% or adidas prime x. Probably not the best idea to start only with plated shoes though, I think you need to get used to them or you are going to have injury issues.

Yep. That Zoom Fly took a bit of breaking in to get used to and I wasn't running more than 20mi/week. I'll prob go with a pebax trainer and faster stuff in pebax/carbon.

Alan

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