This transition should be interesting to follow. She's been sprinting for awhile. Now she has to practice patience over a longer distance. Hopefully she'll share some post race blogs discussing her experiences.
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GoJenny wrote:
It’s hard to believe half of these posts are from true fans of the sport, people who have been around and following Jenny’s career closely. If so, I do not see how you could possibly write off someone as talented and fiercely ambitious as her, much less suggest she’s desperate to maintain relevance!
Let’s remember her entire collegiate career, all the records set, the massive/unexpected event change, the last 200m of almost any of her pro 1500m track races, and the many, many times she stormed down Fifth Avenue to victory. She has talent, great coaching, and incredible drive.
What, she’s “finished” because she’s not chasing gold in the 15? Because she “just” ran 3:58 at 2019 Worlds? She’s “irrelevant” just because she didn’t qualify in the 15 for the most recent Olympics? No, she just came back the very same year, raced 10 miles and placed second. Who does that?! What other 1500m runners have done that recently? Yet some on this board still suggest she couldn’t belong to the top names in road racing?!
If anyone can rise to the challenge, Jenny can.
So what if some of us think Jenny is finished. I suppose if one said Centro was finished (and he is younger than Jenny) then you would be here to tell us we are full of s- - t. Some of us can tell when a runner is finished and if you have a contrary opinion so be it. By finished I mean she will be a mediocrity on the national stage for a couple of years and then it will get worse until maybe age group awards at 40 if she still cares. This does not mean I don’t think she was a great runner in her prime.
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Jenny update.
Sounds like she didn't want to leave NB, she does plan to run mostly roads leading to the marathon, and she has had some serious injuries.
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Homer Jenny Simpson wrote:
KAV wrote:
Thats actually a smart choice and that shows how clueless you are. Deviate Nitro Elite just won bronze at the Olympics....
In addition - the Puma range is pretty good, is well priced, and the grip on their shoes is the best around by a mile, hands down.
I can guess how you'd arrive at that conclusion.
As i said, you are clueless
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rojo wrote:
Herre wrote:
Jenny Simpson the clean runner who couldn’t break 4 until she was almost 28. She ran 4:32 the year she turned 20.
Never let facts get in the way of your narrative. So many posts in this thread disgust me.
Simpson broke 4:00 in college at the age of 22.
In another post, someone said Puma's NC group wasn't doing well. I've been SUPER impressed by their results in year 1. It amazes me that people expect A+ results from B talent. The Craggs are doing a great job. Fiona O'Keeffe has been unreal.
I think this is a good outcome for all involved. Jenny was making well north of 500k per year. Is she worth that in terms of results, now? Hell no. But does she give Puma credibility? Hell yes.
Puma, do you have a Pbax trainer? Send it to me. I may wear it as I restart my career in the marathon. JG has said I'll never break 3:00. I know I will.
O'Keeffe is A level talent.
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pumacats wrote:
another puma athlete wrote:
Plus Abbie Steiner signed with Puma too
Puma actually has many of the very biggest stars in track and field: Duplantis, Warholm, Emmanuel Korir, Barshim and Tamberi, Thompson-Herah, Shericka Jackson, Mahuchikh. Americans Sandi Morris and JuVaughn Harrison. Also, Bolt may be retired, but he has a lifetime contract with Puma. Yesh, short on distance runners though.
The biggest thing I've learned from this thread is that Emmanuel Korir is a Puma athlete. I like to think I'm pretty informed on the sport and was aware of all the others mentioned, but had no idea of Korir, so thanks for mentioning!
Looking at his Instagram it appears he was still with Nike at worlds but shortly after that he switched to Puma but did not announce the sponsor change until September.
Does Puma have a mid-distance superspike now? I know they have a legit road racer, but last I heard from their tech was how Warholm ran his 45.94 in a spike of the past with no plate because they didn't have one yet. People also speculated Steiner was running a little slower since switching from Nikes at Kentucky to Pumas. Korir was still very successful this season after switching to Puma spikes so I am curious if they have something or if Korir is just that good.
If anyone knows about their track spike developments let me know. Right now it seems the best mid-distance spikes on the market are the Nike Zoom Victory and the NB FuelCell MD-X along with the ON spike that had a very limited release in Switzerland but seems legit. Would love to see another option in the mix for 800m runners.
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Does everyone remember when Jenny first signed with NB? They made a shoe in her name and asked her are you going to change your name to Simpson or stick with Barringer as she was engaged at the time. She said DEFINITELY STICKING WITH BARRINGER. NB then proceeded to create the “Barringer” training shoe and a marketing campaign around it. Jenny then changed her mind after NB had done the work. They even ran the NB games with huge posters of Jenny Barringer all over the walls and the Barringer shoe big enough for TV coverage and Jenny racing on the track with Simpson on her bib. Awkward. A NB shoe designer told me “never again”.
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Good for Jenny, a new sponsor and a new plan for the roads.
Some of y’all bashing her now for these new changes in her career, are the same ones who’d be bashing her if she just crumbled after the fires in her town and retired from running all together.
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I'm well aware, thanks again.
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KAV wrote:
Homer Jenny Simpson wrote:
She's desperate to maintain relevance in the sport and keep up her athletic image and Puma is desperate for a name athlete to promote given how crappy their NC project is going plus how much Molly Seidel has fallen off the map in the past year. Seems like a perfect match. It won't nudge me any closer to trying Puma gear, which is probably just fine, but I can see it bringing some soccer mom types into their customer base.
Thats actually a smart choice and that shows how clueless you are. Deviate Nitro Elite just won bronze at the Olympics....
In addition - the Puma range is pretty good, is well priced, and the grip on their shoes is the best around by a mile, hands down.
Hey mouth-breather, nothing in your post refuted or contradicted anything in the post you were responding to. You’d have to have shít for brains to fail to see that.
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kybaws wrote:
Good for Jenny, a new sponsor and a new plan for the roads.
Some of y’all bashing her now for these new changes in her career, are the same ones who’d be bashing her if she just crumbled after the fires in her town and retired from running all together.
Please elaborate on posts which are bashing Jenny. I don’t believe that Matthew Centrowitz will ever be a world class runner again. If this is what you consider to be bashing then the only way not to bash for some of us is to lie or be silent.
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If never being a world class marathoner is finished, then you’re right. She’s probably finished. But unless she just keeps getting hurt, there’s no reason she can’t run some good times. She can qualify for the trials and be a human interest piece that they cut to in the pack and talk about like she has a chance. Like Lagat at the last one.
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8675309 wrote:
If never being a world class marathoner is finished, then you’re right. She’s probably finished. But unless she just keeps getting hurt, there’s no reason she can’t run some good times. She can qualify for the trials and be a human interest piece that they cut to in the pack and talk about like she has a chance. Like Lagat at the last one.
Correct and well said.
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Herre wrote:
Are you being sarcastic, or wrote:
don’t you know that Jenny broke 4 in college?
OK I did miss that but my point still stands that her trajectory is a bit suspicious for her to be pointing fingers at others. Maybe she was clean but she is FINISHED.
Trajectory is a bit suspicious!
she ran 3.59 for 1500 as a college steeplechaser. As a pro she switched to the 1500 and train and ran it for a decade and lower her PB to 3.57.
It’s hard to think of a trajectory less suspicious.
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Herre is dumb wrote:
Herre wrote:
OK I did miss that but my point still stands that her trajectory is a bit suspicious for her to be pointing fingers at others. Maybe she was clean but she is FINISHED.
Trajectory is a bit suspicious!
she ran 3.59 for 1500 as a college steeplechaser. As a pro she switched to the 1500 and train and ran it for a decade and lower her PB to 3.57.
It’s hard to think of a trajectory less suspicious.
I was willing to drop it BUT if you insist on going there girl…it is the college trajectory that is suspicious as hell. Then the Dr. Brown connection? Come on now.
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Iron Bars wrote:
Homer Jenny Simpson wrote:
She's desperate to maintain relevance in the sport and keep up her athletic image and Puma is desperate for a name athlete to promote given how crappy their NC project is going plus how much Molly Seidel has fallen off the map in the past year. Seems like a perfect match. It won't nudge me any closer to trying Puma gear, which is probably just fine, but I can see it bringing some soccer mom types into their customer base.
Have you heard of the Olympian and medalist Jenna Prandini?
I had no idea who this Jenna person was. Had to google her
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agip wrote:
Sounds to me that NB is really pulling back from sponsoring professionals. They got hurt badly by being passed by in the super shoe arms race and probably decided to sponsor races instead of individuals. Jenny probably got lowballed and felt insulted and put herself on the market.
NB used to have a whole crew of women. No more. Having second-tier shoes hurts.
good on Jenny . But a little sad that she couldn’t retire with NB. And that shoe tech is so important now.
Well I feel like an idiot after Sisson's run. (Assuming she had on NB shoes. )
Glad to be massively wrong!
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We talked about this on the Supporters Club podcast. Clip here
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Puma's are legit! I have ran in two pairs of the Velocity Nitro v1 and have about 200 miles on v2. It's a great shoe. Those who doubt, try them. I also have raced a marathon and 10k in the Deviate Nitro Elite. Fantastic racer. Good for her. Doctors of Running gave positive reviews of both shoes.
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Herre wrote:
Jenny Simpson is FINISHED. She is now a mediocre national class runner and it is only going to get worse. Let us be real here.
Of course you were correct. Sometimes the truth is needed.
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Is there a rule against attaching a helium balloon to yourself while running a road race?
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Am I living in the twilight zone? The Boston Marathon weather was terrible!
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How rare is it to run a sub 5 minute mile AND bench press 225?
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Move over Mark Coogan, Rojo and John Kellogg share their 3 favorite mile workouts
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Mark Coogan says that if you could only do 3 workouts as a 1500m runner you should do these
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Red Bull (who sponsors Mondo) calls Mondo the pole vaulting Usain Bolt. Is that a fair comparison?