Another Kenyan busted!

Bingo! But this thread (and Letsrun in general) have become too toxic to bother. All I'll say is Lilian Rengeruk is not a cheat and I wish her a long and healthy career

Well except the fact that she was caught cheating, sure.

For sure she is not a cheat. She is like Houlihan. Neither would ever cheat. They are not that type of woman. So what happened? We know they’re innocent. That is all we know.

She's is not like Houlihan. Anyway, not my place to comment so I'll respect her privacy. It's up to her if she wants to make a statement. Just be aware the sentence is light for a reason.

Somehow, just somehow I think that whole thing can be distilled into a simple equation:

Reason == $$

El K makes some good points and I had the feeling myself that Rengeruk ingested something that gave a positive finding, but that it was not of her own volition, but that is my own opinion.

Most people see things in black-and-white, but I think that it is a gray area here and as El K stated, there was a reason for her to be given such a light sentence. I don’t think anyone except a select few, know the full story at this stage.

She will be back in business in February or March 2023 which is just around the corner, so it’s kind of an indication that her infraction was (possibly) either not voluntary or so light that it did not merit a severe sanction.

Watching the doping apologist twist themselves inside to claim that a doping ban is not cheating is hilarious. She cheated and got caught. This is not a new product in the doping game. As to the light sentence, who knows? Nothing in this sport is above board.

It's used by bodybuilders to mitigate the post-cycle effects of steroid use, by blocking estrogen.

Again, these steroid or steroid related busts just show how hopless EPO testing still is.

en.wikipedia.org

Lilian Kasait Rengeruk

Lilian Kasait Rengeruk (born 3 May 1997) is a Kenyan female long-distance runner. She won the bronze medal in the women's senior race at the 2017 World Cross Country Championships. Rengeruk is the former 3000 metres World Und...

Link:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilian_Kasait_Re...

El K., which ethnic group does she belong to? Kikuyu, Luhya, Kalenjin, Luo, Kisii, etc? her family name, Rengeruk does not sound at all like a Kalenjin name?

She is a police woman so at least during the interim when she’s not running she will have income coming in on a permanent basis.

If she cheated voluntarily then that will be a black mark against her but if there were mitigating circumstances explaining her light sentence, among other things, then she should be allowed to get on with her career. This does not seem to be a black-and-white case so far in there are unanswered questions.

The authorities gave her a very light sentence backdated to April 2022 which explains why she will be back in business so soon in February 2023. As far as I can tell, I don’t think there’s any negativity against her in Kenya, at least that’s the impression I get from the numerous people that I’m in contact with in different parts of Kenya who are runners. They all seem to respect her and what she does.

^ She's Kalenjin.

There are no grey areas here. This is not something you ingest accidentally and is a common doping product. She got caught cheating. Deal with it. They gave her a slap on the wrist.

Very good and that is what I suspected from her physical appearance.

On another subject are you satisfied with the official declaration that Dr. William Ruto is now the official leader of Kenya over his rival (78 year old) Odinga? Will the latter team (Odinga) still push the judicial process up to the appellate court to contest the decision?

Are the other ethnic groups in Kenya satisfied with his official proclamation? I’m referring to the majority Kikuyu, Luhya, Luo, and other groups with lesser numbers like the Kisii, and Masai?

Sir, you may be right and I respect your opinion but can you explain why she was given such a light sentence? I’m thinking that there were mitigating circumstances that made the official body who took the decision to sanction her, found that her explanation of the circumstances merited clemency? Do you see this point of view as being possibly valid? Other prominent Kenyan athletes in the past, were dealt much harsher sentences and there has to be some logic here. Thank you

Rengeruk: strangely, I looked her up on Instagram but could not find her on that popular promotion site. There was another person by that name but it was a man and it showed one solitary photo of a major cross country race in Italy which is all rather strange. She is a policewoman, so presumably she will have that security cushion for life and then a pension.

The police, the army, and the prison service are highly sought after occupations for up-and-coming runners in Kenya but usually only the best are selected.

more specifics on the case here

Latest news: I just got a message from a runner, that most of the people on this website know by name, but obviously I will keep his name under wraps for the moment. He said this about the Rengeruk case, and I quote his words directly:

“ to my opinion I think it might be accident she has been consistent for a good period of time. I think this incident got her while on maternity leave. But she can be able to explain better what happened.“

Then a few minutes later I got a second message from the same person in Kenya: “ she is a clean mama and the training group is clean and good to as to my understanding.“

Ghost comment: Of course people may point out that these are just words and they don’t prove or disprove anything but still I give this some credence because this guy is on the ground and running in Kenya consistently and he knows with the skinny is, for whatever it’s worth.

For those who wish to receive more evidence with regard to the veracity of the above message please feel free to PM me and I will put you in touch with the provider of the above two messages.

Thank you.

What is letrozole?

“Letrozole is an aromatase inhibitor, which means it’s used by male athletes to prevent “feminizing” side effects during a steroid cycle. It is not an anabolic steroid, and it doesn’t appear to boost athletic performance in any real way, particularly for women.”

“… “everyone agrees it’s not a performance enhancer,” said University of Colorado professor Roger Pielke, who has spent several years studying the scientific flaws in WADA’s drug-testing policies.”

There may be a reason that a doctor prescribed an oestrogen reducing drug during her maternity leave. The light sentence comes from admitting it immediately and explaining the circumstances.

globalsportmatters.com

Has WADA helped or hurt the anti-doping movement? - Global Sport Matters

Andrew Ramsammy

In an effort to level the playing field for all athletes, has the World Anti-Doping Agency muddied the waters to the point of ineffectiveness?

Link:globalsportmatters.com/science/2018/08...

Thank you for providing this information which explains quite a lot about the case including the possibility that the doctor prescribed this pharmaceutical to help her in her post maternity woes. Hopefully this very light ban will not disadvantage her in her forthcoming career because she is truly a very talented athlete.

Going by the information you provide, I think most people agree now that this was an accidental ingestion of a product on the WADA list.

Taking this a step further, in a court of law divorced from athletics, she would normally receive a guiltless verdict, one assumes.

Not at all. See for example Lawson. That she did receive a ban, despite her cooperation, indicates that she did not accidentally take the drug (which is actually forbidden at all times, unlike some minor drugs).

That she received such a small ban, indicates that she cooperated fully and could share the blame with others.