Aaron Judge is doped 2 the gills. Yes or No?

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1 year ago 09/22/2022 11:59am EDT

re: MasterofNone

MasterofNone wrote:
Juiced balls are definitely not a conspiracy. The MLB openly admitted to altering balls amidst the spidertack era. The pinstripes being good is good for baseball; chicks also dig the long ball so why not juice em? It's remarkably easy to do.
This is an interesting watch if you have the time
Video:www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8InFV3_AQc

Sure, they have juiced balls for the entire league, but suggesting they are juicing balls for just one team or one player is absurd, and it’s one of the most implausible conspiracy theories I’ve ever seen.

If it was true that the balls being used just for Yankees games are juiced, then that would result in the Yankees pitchers giving up lots of homers, too. That’s not the case. This year, Yankees pitchers have collectively given up the 7th *fewest* home runs in MLB:

mlb.com

2022 MLB Team Pitching Stats

The official source for MLB team pitching stats, including wins, ERA, and strikeout leaders

Link:www.mlb.com/stats/team/pitching/home-r...

Given that their pitchers are not giving up a bunch of homers, the only way that the conspiracy theory would be true is if MLB uses two sets of balls within Yankees games, one set for Yankees pitchers and another set for the opposing pitchers. Again, absurd. But if true, that would mean all the Yankees hitters are having phenomenal years. Alas, they are not. Stanton has a career low slugging percentage this year, Donaldson is slugging 100 points below his career average, and Gallo was so awful they had to get rid of him.

Clearly the ball is not juiced for the other Yankees hitters, which means the only way the conspiracy theory is true is if MLB has a special set of balls just for Judge! I can’t believe I’m even entertaining this craziness, but consider that Judge is in a contract year. Helping him excel is *against* MLB’s owners’ interests because that will drive up his salary this off-season and then raise the salary bar for those who follow. They don’t want that!

How about this for an explanation: one of the biggest and strongest hitters in baseball history is in his prime and healthy.

1 year ago 09/22/2022 12:45pm EDT

re: McRunnin

McRunnin wrote:
MasterofNone wrote:
Juiced balls are definitely not a conspiracy. The MLB openly admitted to altering balls amidst the spidertack era. The pinstripes being good is good for baseball; chicks also dig the long ball so why not juice em? It's remarkably easy to do.
This is an interesting watch if you have the time
Video:www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8InFV3_AQc
Sure, they have juiced balls for the entire league, but suggesting they are juicing balls for just one team or one player is absurd, and it’s one of the most implausible conspiracy theories I’ve ever seen.
If it was true that the balls being used just for Yankees games are juiced, then that would result in the Yankees pitchers giving up lots of homers, too. That’s not the case. This year, Yankees pitchers have collectively given up the 7th *fewest* home runs in MLB:
Link:www.mlb.com/stats/team/pitching/home-r...
Given that their pitchers are not giving up a bunch of homers, the only way that the conspiracy theory would be true is if MLB uses two sets of balls within Yankees games, one set for Yankees pitchers and another set for the opposing pitchers. Again, absurd. But if true, that would mean all the Yankees hitters are having phenomenal years. Alas, they are not. Stanton has a career low slugging percentage this year, Donaldson is slugging 100 points below his career average, and Gallo was so awful they had to get rid of him.
Clearly the ball is not juiced for the other Yankees hitters, which means the only way the conspiracy theory is true is if MLB has a special set of balls just for Judge! I can’t believe I’m even entertaining this craziness, but consider that Judge is in a contract year. Helping him excel is *against* MLB’s owners’ interests because that will drive up his salary this off-season and then raise the salary bar for those who follow. They don’t want that!
How about this for an explanation: one of the biggest and strongest hitters in baseball history is in his prime and healthy.

Yep...thinking that MLB is juicing balls for one player is batsh!t crazy.

1 year ago 09/22/2022 1:10pm EDT

re: Film Rep's Personal Assistant

Of course he's a doper. no doubt about it. We need to ask.......what athlete isn't a doper?

It never gets tired and worn out does it?

1 year ago 09/22/2022 1:14pm EDT

re: Flagpole

Flagpole wrote:
McRunnin wrote:
Sure, they have juiced balls for the entire league, but suggesting they are juicing balls for just one team or one player is absurd, and it’s one of the most implausible conspiracy theories I’ve ever seen.
If it was true that the balls being used just for Yankees games are juiced, then that would result in the Yankees pitchers giving up lots of homers, too. That’s not the case. This year, Yankees pitchers have collectively given up the 7th *fewest* home runs in MLB:
Link:www.mlb.com/stats/team/pitching/home-r...
Given that their pitchers are not giving up a bunch of homers, the only way that the conspiracy theory would be true is if MLB uses two sets of balls within Yankees games, one set for Yankees pitchers and another set for the opposing pitchers. Again, absurd. But if true, that would mean all the Yankees hitters are having phenomenal years. Alas, they are not. Stanton has a career low slugging percentage this year, Donaldson is slugging 100 points below his career average, and Gallo was so awful they had to get rid of him.
Clearly the ball is not juiced for the other Yankees hitters, which means the only way the conspiracy theory is true is if MLB has a special set of balls just for Judge! I can’t believe I’m even entertaining this craziness, but consider that Judge is in a contract year. Helping him excel is *against* MLB’s owners’ interests because that will drive up his salary this off-season and then raise the salary bar for those who follow. They don’t want that!
How about this for an explanation: one of the biggest and strongest hitters in baseball history is in his prime and healthy.
Yep...thinking that MLB is juicing balls for one player is batsh!t crazy.

Yes, but I'm a fan - baseball is only watchable when the players are doped. If it looks like a duck. But let me tell you Raphael palmero did not dope!

1 year ago 09/22/2022 2:02pm EDT

re: Flagpole

Flagpole wrote:
the clear and the cream wrote:
PED's keep you on the field
Yes. I hope he's not doing that.

He’s no more doped than SAFP or Jakob or Kipyegon or Kipchoge or any other generational talent putting up numbers and performances that are outliers who has never tested positive.

1 year ago 09/22/2022 3:24pm EDT

re: Barry Badrinath

Barry Badrinath wrote:
Aaron Judge isn’t juicing, but the balls MLB is putting into play when he bats are. Judge is a very good hitter who should be slashing something like .280/.380/.530 with 35 HR. He’s actually been really consistent in his career around these numbers. MLB just badly wants the Yankees to be good and be a story because they’re bleeding fans in a bad way.

The home team provides the baseballs. So teams facing the Yankees at home use the same balls as used in Yankee stadium.

In football each team brings their own balls. Bradygate anyone?

Basketball, soccer and hockey, I have no idea who is in charge of the balls or pucks.

Although in basketball both teams get to try both game balls and decide which one they both feel comfortable with.

1 year ago 09/22/2022 3:41pm EDT

re: Film Rep's Personal Assistant

1 year ago 09/22/2022 3:41pm EDT

re: Wise Old Man

Wise Old Man wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Yes. I hope he's not doing that.
He’s no more doped than SAFP or Jakob or Kipyegon or Kipchoge or any other generational talent putting up numbers and performances that are outliers who has never tested positive.

Lance never tested positive

1 year ago 09/22/2022 4:04pm EDT

re: Barry Badrinath

Home runs are down nearly 12% from last season and almost 23% from the prior full season, 2019. FWIW

1 year ago 09/22/2022 4:06pm EDT

re: HappyJack

HappyJack wrote:
The home team provides the baseballs. So teams facing the Yankees at home use the same balls as used in Yankee stadium.
In football each team brings their own balls. Bradygate anyone?
Basketball, soccer and hockey, I have no idea who is in charge of the balls or pucks.
Although in basketball both teams get to try both game balls and decide which one they both feel comfortable with.

During baseball games, the umpires carry balls. If a new ball is needed during an inning, it comes from the home plate umpire. So, if someone believes that the ball is juiced for Judge and Judge alone, that means they believe the umpires keep a stash of special balls for Judge on hand, and the umpires insist on switching out the ball whenever it’s Judge’s turn to bat. Absurd!

1 year ago 09/22/2022 4:20pm EDT

re: the real real

the real real wrote:
Wise Old Man wrote:
He’s no more doped than SAFP or Jakob or Kipyegon or Kipchoge or any other generational talent putting up numbers and performances that are outliers who has never tested positive.
Lance never tested positive

Exactly. The point is you never really know. All I’m saying is that all that suggests Judge is doped is that he’s awesome at hitting HRs, like the runners I’ve named are at their events.

1 year ago 09/22/2022 4:27pm EDT

re: Wise Old Man

Judge is likely not doped. He looks today much the same as he did in around 2013 when he entered MLB. He is just big and strong. Bonds, Canseco, McGwire all got huge on the dope. They looked nothing like when they entered the league.

1 year ago 09/22/2022 4:45pm EDT

re: Boomer Slang

I'm tired of hearing about how Judge will "bring integrity back to the Home Run record", "the tradition of the Yankees", blah blah blah. Sure, let's take a quick look at the recent "tradition" of the Yankees. In the past 20 years:

Late-career Clemens: juicer

Giambi: juicer, entire career was a fraud

Pettitte: admitted HGH user

Sheffield: cheater

A-Rod: enough said

Texeira: juicer

Cano: juicer

So we're supposed to believe that Judge, who in one year went from a career AAAA player who couldn't stay on a big-league roster, to hitting 52 homers in a season, is above suspicion? Well, I was born at night... but it wasn't last night.

1 year ago 09/22/2022 6:34pm EDT

re: Have to be skeptical...

Have to be skeptical... wrote:
So we're supposed to believe that Judge, who in one year went from a career AAAA player who couldn't stay on a big-league roster, to hitting 52 homers in a season, is above suspicion? Well, I was born at night... but it wasn't last night.

Be skeptical (and envious) all you want but at least be honest. Saying he was a career AAAA player is a total lie. Judge was known for his prodigious power long before he got to the big leagues, and he had a steady progression from college ball through the minors, finding success at each level.

At Fresno State, Judge won the 2012 college home run derby and he had a .980 OPS, including a 1.117 OPS his junior year. After his junior year in 2013, he was a 1st-round draft pick, which tells you he was considered one of the best prospects in the game. He made his minor league debut in 2014, and steadily progressed through the minor league levels before making his MLB debut in 2016 at age 24.

He was a highly touted prospect who represented the Yankees in the 2015 All-Star Futures Game. There was a lot of buzz around him before he got called up, and I distinctly remember being excited when he made his debut. Of course he homered in his very first at bat!

milb.com

Judge makes history in Yankees' debut

Promoted from Triple-A, Yankees No. 4 prospect Aaron Judge went back-to-back with Tyler Austin as they became the first teammates to homer in their first big league at-bats in the same game.

Link:www.milb.com/news/gcs-195375374

1 year ago 09/22/2022 7:04pm EDT

re: McRunnin

If you're not skeptical of anyone who is one of the best of the best at generating a powerful bat swing then you're being naive. The fact of the matter is there are a whole lot of people trying to be great power hitters, we know many are willing to use substances to their benefit, and we know that the substances are highly effective. It doesn't take a real leap of faith to suspect that someone who is better than all the dopers is also doping.

1 year ago 09/22/2022 7:28pm EDT

re: Film Rep's Personal Assistant

Read the MLB anti-doping policy and you'll realize that everyone is doping.

1 year ago 09/22/2022 7:43pm EDT

re: sunflower

sunflower wrote:
If you're not skeptical of anyone who is one of the best of the best at generating a powerful bat swing then you're being naive. The fact of the matter is there are a whole lot of people trying to be great power hitters, we know many are willing to use substances to their benefit, and we know that the substances are highly effective. It doesn't take a real leap of faith to suspect that someone who is better than all the dopers is also doping.

As I wrote, it’s fine to be skeptical. All I’m saying is be honest about it. The person to whom I responded made it seem as if Judge was a middling prospect who suddenly became great. That is 100% false.

Judge isn’t some nobody who came out of nowhere and all of a sudden gained a bunch of muscle and started hitting home runs. He’s been big and strong since he was a teenager, and he was a highly regarded prospect.

1 year ago 09/22/2022 8:06pm EDT

re: McRunnin

McRunnin wrote:
As I wrote, it’s fine to be skeptical. All I’m saying is be honest about it. The person to whom I responded made it seem as if Judge was a middling prospect who suddenly became great. That is 100% false.
Judge isn’t some nobody who came out of nowhere and all of a sudden gained a bunch of muscle and started hitting home runs. He’s been big and strong since he was a teenager, and he was a highly regarded prospect.

Well, you need to be honest too. Judge was NOT regarded as a can't-miss prospect. In 2016, he couldn't stick on a Yankees roster that ended up barely over .500. Going into the 2017 season, there was talk of trading him for a #5 starting pitcher, for chrissakes.

1 year ago 09/22/2022 9:20pm EDT

re: Have to be skeptical...

Have to be skeptical... wrote:
McRunnin wrote:
As I wrote, it’s fine to be skeptical. All I’m saying is be honest about it. The person to whom I responded made it seem as if Judge was a middling prospect who suddenly became great. That is 100% false.
Judge isn’t some nobody who came out of nowhere and all of a sudden gained a bunch of muscle and started hitting home runs. He’s been big and strong since he was a teenager, and he was a highly regarded prospect.
Well, you need to be honest too. Judge was NOT regarded as a can't-miss prospect. In 2016, he couldn't stick on a Yankees roster that ended up barely over .500. Going into the 2017 season, there was talk of trading him for a #5 starting pitcher, for chrissakes.

Where have I not been honest? Was he not so big and strong in high school that he got recruited to play tight end in D1 football? Was he not a home run derby champion in college? Was he not a 1st round draft pick? Did MLB.com not have him ranked as the #31 prospect in the game? Where is the lie?

If you want to talk about spring training of 2016, be honest about the fact that the Yankees have long been known for prioritizing veterans over youth. In 2016, the Yankees had veteran (and highly paid) outfielders blocking Judge’s promotion. It wasn’t until that summer that they decided to switch it up and give their young players a chance. That’s when they traded Carlos Beltran, which opened up a spot for Judge. The rest is history.

1 year ago 09/22/2022 9:52pm EDT

re: Flagpole

Flagpole wrote:
McRunnin wrote:
Sure, they have juiced balls for the entire league, but suggesting they are juicing balls for just one team or one player is absurd, and it’s one of the most implausible conspiracy theories I’ve ever seen.
If it was true that the balls being used just for Yankees games are juiced, then that would result in the Yankees pitchers giving up lots of homers, too. That’s not the case. This year, Yankees pitchers have collectively given up the 7th *fewest* home runs in MLB:
Link:www.mlb.com/stats/team/pitching/home-r...
Given that their pitchers are not giving up a bunch of homers, the only way that the conspiracy theory would be true is if MLB uses two sets of balls within Yankees games, one set for Yankees pitchers and another set for the opposing pitchers. Again, absurd. But if true, that would mean all the Yankees hitters are having phenomenal years. Alas, they are not. Stanton has a career low slugging percentage this year, Donaldson is slugging 100 points below his career average, and Gallo was so awful they had to get rid of him.
Clearly the ball is not juiced for the other Yankees hitters, which means the only way the conspiracy theory is true is if MLB has a special set of balls just for Judge! I can’t believe I’m even entertaining this craziness, but consider that Judge is in a contract year. Helping him excel is *against* MLB’s owners’ interests because that will drive up his salary this off-season and then raise the salary bar for those who follow. They don’t want that!
How about this for an explanation: one of the biggest and strongest hitters in baseball history is in his prime and healthy.
Yep...thinking that MLB is juicing balls for one player is batsh!t crazy.

always looking for a chance to agree with you, flagpole.. That is batsh!t crazy

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