In my first week of med school, I met a ridiculously attractive and incredibly intelligent female classmate. A month into school, I found out that she'd started dating a male classmate who is all of 5'4". Fourth year, the two of them got married.
Sorry, but the whole "short guys can't get attention from women" sob story just doesn't seem like reality to me. Sure, you're probably at a disadvantage. But you can overcome that disadvantage by being more impressive in other areas.
I have an uncle who has smoked two packs of cigarettes a day for 50 years. He is healthy as a horse. Smoking isn't bad for you.
I'm 23 and a virgin. Simply, I'm not attractive and not charming. I get along with people, but I don't have any real close friends. I'm the person that people only go to when they have no one else or really need something. I'm the last option, but not the desirable option. I don't consider myself an incel because I hold no anger towards society for it. I can't force people to be attracted to me and frankly I don't want it to be forced or feel like an obligation for them. Not all of us are going to be chads just like not all of us are winners. I'm a loser and the human equivalent of an orc. I've accepted that I don't fit in. It sucks and the loneliness does pains me sometimes, but again I can't force people to change their feelings, behaviors, and attitudes for and or towards me.
Macron is 5'8. Zelenski and Putin are 5'7, although I doubt if Putin is really that tall. You can't change your height so work on what you can change. Your wealth, your success in life, your education. I've had several women tell me that for them intelligence is an elixir. Women want to have smart children.
Macron had to marry a woman 24 years older. Zelensky is a puppet. Putin is legit, but no woman wants intelligence/smart children for own sake. Sure, they'll marry (or long term relationship) an intelligent successful man, but that doesn't mean that's who they want fathering their children.
80% of available females are having sex with the top 20% of available males.
I guess due to dating/hook up apps making it easier for women.
It has no basis in reality. Seriously do only 20% of your friends have partners? And do you really think a top 20% guy is going to have sex with a below average girl?
It's a statistic taken from a Tinder study. I think Manbearpig is a little rough on the details (it wasn't presented as "having sex", but given what Tinder is used for, it's implied).
I believe the actual study asked men and women to rate members of the opposite sex as being above or below average in terms of attractiveness. I can't remember the exact statistic, but men rated roughly 60% of women as above average, whereas women rated only 20% of men as being above average.
Obviously, if 30% of males aren't having sex and the percentage of sexless women is much lower, than some males are doubling up relative to their female counterparts.
This demonstrates a difference in sexual behaviour at a population level, and so the statistic given by Manbearpig isn't completely wrong (even if not exact). There's a reason why polygamy has been a fairly common cultural practice throughout human history and polyandry has not.
It has no basis in reality. Seriously do only 20% of your friends have partners? And do you really think a top 20% guy is going to have sex with a below average girl?
It's a statistic taken from a Tinder study. I think Manbearpig is a little rough on the details (it wasn't presented as "having sex", but given what Tinder is used for, it's implied).
I believe the actual study asked men and women to rate members of the opposite sex as being above or below average in terms of attractiveness. I can't remember the exact statistic, but men rated roughly 60% of women as above average, whereas women rated only 20% of men as being above average.
Obviously, if 30% of males aren't having sex and the percentage of sexless women is much lower, than some males are doubling up relative to their female counterparts.
This demonstrates a difference in sexual behaviour at a population level, and so the statistic given by Manbearpig isn't completely wrong (even if not exact). There's a reason why polygamy has been a fairly common cultural practice throughout human history and polyandry has not.
This is a thread about hating incels, stop using logic!
LMAO at all these reason. The fact of the matter is nobody likes fat chicks and there's more of them than ever. There literally aren't enough 5/10 or above women around to make guys want to lose their virginities.
Women (on average) are probably fatter and more annoying and entitled than they ever have been in the history of humans. Could the problem just be that men are also trying to compete for a smaller pool of women? Something to think about.
In my first week of med school, I met a ridiculously attractive and incredibly intelligent female classmate. A month into school, I found out that she'd started dating a male classmate who is all of 5'4". Fourth year, the two of them got married.
Sorry, but the whole "short guys can't get attention from women" sob story just doesn't seem like reality to me. Sure, you're probably at a disadvantage. But you can overcome that disadvantage by being more impressive in other areas.
I have an uncle who has smoked two packs of cigarettes a day for 50 years. He is healthy as a horse. Smoking isn't bad for you.
Same logic. Anecdotes prove nothing.
But no one is saying the incel equivalent of “smoking isn’t bad for you.” In the post you replied to, they admitted that shorter men are at a disadvantage. What the anecdote does prove is that even though you are at a disadvantage, it’s not impossible (or even close to impossible) like you guys make it out to be. I have two 5’6ish friends in my life with body counts above 50. One is my roommate whose last girlfriend was easily a 9 and he broke up with her.
You guys will do anything to protect your egos. It’s a defense mechanism. If it’s not because of your height, then it must be because of what? Your personality? No no no, that can’t be it. Ego protection activated. It’s the girls fault.
The stat is wrong. Google it. It's 31% of men aged 18-24 haven't had sex in the last year not the % of virgins. The figure was 14% of men aged 25-34. I think less than 5% of 30 year old men are virgins.
The threshold is certainly higher, but I see more younger women who are closer to beauty standards than men.
The skinny-fat phenomenon in men under 35 is something to behold, and it must be compromising men's looks in other ways (insulin resistance / general impact on hormones, etc). I remember changing for a night out with my old school friends when we were 23/24, and most of them had this little belly developing, slightly pallid complexion, and just looked years older than they were. Meanwhile they guys who'd stayed in shape had a glow of vitality - and still do in their 30s.
Love the handle name. Don't give up on Lolo, now that she's in her 40s maybe you'll have a shot.
18-30 is an awfully large age range for a stat like that. Sure, there are plenty of 18 year old virgins and always have been. 30 year olds is a completely different thing. Stats for large ranges like that mean almost nothing.
Wonder why the thread didn't stop at this. I mean I personally would've increased this stat as I didn't get laid until sophomore year of college. But that totally didn't feel like being late to the party, or unpopular with the girls or anything. Sure quite a few kids said they had sex in school and some probably did. But me and most of my peers cared about academic grades and video games and didn't drink THAT much at the parties to break through the awkward shyness, not for anything more than a smelly wet kiss and maybe grabbing a tit. For reference, this was late 90s.
LMAO at all these reason. The fact of the matter is nobody likes fat chicks and there's more of them than ever. There literally aren't enough 5/10 or above women around to make guys want to lose their virginities.
Women (on average) are probably fatter and more annoying and entitled than they ever have been in the history of humans.
I'm 5'10, 135 lbs. My calves are about 10 times thicker than my tiny arms. My last girlfriend was 14 stone and when she was on top it almost pushed all the air out of me. Never felt so much downwards force before.
The internet. Nobody has any social skills anymore. I have social anxiety but I'm good looking and have an acerbic charm that seems to work. Also, internet pron is too easily accessible. When I was a kid you had your dad's vintage collection of playboy and maybe you'd catch an image of a boob on the scrambled soft core porn channel. Incels now find each other and take pride in their situation. They convince themselves that women are evil and shallow and only talk to Chads. They won't admit that they're single because of their horrible personalities. I have one friend who's borderline Incel — he claims to have had sex — who self-sabotages anytime a woman might be interested in him. His standards are way too high, but he's also fat and bald and won't make any effort to even talk to women. We live in a city where average dudes have really good odds of meeting semi-hot women too.
Seriously, your whole situation is a self-fulfilling prophecy. You think you're a loser, so you convince other people of it too. Other people pick up on your insecurity and it's not fun to be around. I only say this because I used to be this way. Sure not everyone is going to like you, but there are plenty of people out there who can relate to you. Just trust that people genuinely want to be around you and/or they're just as insecure as you are. You CAN change the way you feel about yourself, and people will notice that and be drawn to it. Looks or charm have nothing to do with it. I also bet you're not as bad looking as you think. And even if you are, you can do things to be the best looking you can be. Good luck. Stay off the internet and keep forcing yourself to get out there. The world doesn't need any more Incels. And stay of LRC.
It's due to how isolated capitalism has made our society.
At a time in US history where the needle has never been pointed more towards socialism and government overreach Capitalism is clearly the problem. Because we are clearly operating in a free market Capitalist society with a totally hands off government......
Lack of ambition? I mean really. Gotta shoot your shots and take some risks tbh. Get in them DMs.
I'm probably a solid 6 or 7 based on looks, but the body count was probably like 30+ at the age of 25.
100% not a troll post. My body #s have slowed into the late 30s, even though im probably a solid 9 if you count assets and how the future is setup.
Lol. Stfu. My body count at 26 is like 40 because I’m a sexual compulsive and can’t help but hit on women. You literally just go up and say “you wanna f? You’re so effing hot” and it works that easy.
also you won’t need girlfriends or sex in about 5 years when competitors to Boston dynamics make a agile sex robot that can f you and have the pocket psssys installed. Imagine sex robots with agility and silicon bodies and advanced AI, also with VR headsets? No way women will last.
we are going to be able to easily iterate and and make VR and sex robots so attractive you’ll never wanna f a “real” girl again mark my words. They will have a whole system you step into that just ffffs you at the end of the day, it injects drugs into you that gets you high and then the robot takes over. Like a physical opium for the masses
like look at everything else we engineer. Women have no competition. They are lost