Again, who are they to judge someone's motivation for having sex with lots of women, as long as it's consensual? And what if many women are okay with being sexually objectified, who are secular liberals to judge that? Liberation. My body my choice.
If your motivation for having sex with lots of women is to attain the highest body count you can, then I am going to judge you for it. I think that’s weird and creepy and objectifying. It’s not weird if you’re just sexually active and enjoy it for what it is. It’s only weird if it’s some sort of competitive hierarchy thing.
Just because someone may be proud of being successful sexually doesn’t mean that they are only sexually active to achieve bragging rights. A man that is more successful romantically/sexually is seen as higher value by other men. That’s just unfortunately how society works.
Feeling a sense of accomplishment for these things doesn’t mean you are objectifying women, or using them. That’s a leap in logic. I know my intimacy statistics and will sometimes share them when I feel it’s necessary. I’m glad that I’ve learned the skills necessary to be able to attract women. That doesn’t mean the people I’ve been intimate with were people I was hooking up with to increase the stats.
If your motivation for having sex with lots of women is to attain the highest body count you can, then I am going to judge you for it. I think that’s weird and creepy and objectifying. It’s not weird if you’re just sexually active and enjoy it for what it is. It’s only weird if it’s some sort of competitive hierarchy thing.
Just because someone may be proud of being successful sexually doesn’t mean that they are only sexually active to achieve bragging rights. A man that is more successful romantically/sexually is seen as higher value by other men. That’s just unfortunately how society works.
Feeling a sense of accomplishment for these things doesn’t mean you are objectifying women, or using them. That’s a leap in logic. I know my intimacy statistics and will sometimes share them when I feel it’s necessary. I’m glad that I’ve learned the skills necessary to be able to attract women. That doesn’t mean the people I’ve been intimate with were people I was hooking up with to increase the stats.
Your first sentence falls into my “enjoy it for what it is” framework, but then you go on to describe the competitive hierarchy (value to other men). There’s wanting to be accepted, and then there’s wanting to be revered. The latter is a narcissistic trait rooted in insecurity. You might be surprised how many men don’t give a crap about how many women their bros have slept with. Feeling “accomplished” is different than feeling connected, or loved, or fulfilled, or valued. Angry incels are basically just vulnerable narcs, all of them.
If you feel accomplished as a direct result of your sexual conquesting, then I think that is inherent objectification of women. There’s a fine line here that I think we could work out, but I’m just explaining why one poster said that “body count” would come of weird to a lot of people they know.
First of all, men don't use the term "body count" around other women (at least ones they are interested in), so a woman doesn't theoretically know whether they use this term.
Second of all, why would your "liberal" friends be appalled by the idea of a "body count"? Who are they to judge someone's desire for sex as long as it is consensual? That would be hypocritical from the rainbow flag people. Seems like modern "feminists" are trying to enforce chivalristic/traditional/religions sexual norms for men but complete liberation for women.
The incel gets sad about the rejection, blames society for the rejection, and then gives up.
C'mon man...it's very hard NOT to give up when you're very unattractive with facial inadequacies.
Most women like to look at a handsome face & I don't blame them one bit!
I can't even stand to look at myself in a mirror & I usually wear my mask everywhere I go including the gym even though mask mandates have long ended. 😷
I did the life of an average man (or slightly above, high tier normie) , the life of a Chad, now the life of a very attractive guy (or Sub5). It has a happy ...
The incel gets sad about the rejection, blames society for the rejection, and then gives up.
C'mon man...it's very hard NOT to give up when you're very unattractive with facial inadequacies.
Most women like to look at a handsome face & I don't blame them one bit!
I can't even stand to look at myself in a mirror & I usually wear my mask everywhere I go including the gym even though mask mandates have long ended. 😷
I think I already told you to just get the plastic surgery. Seriously, girls do it all the time. Go get yourself a nice jaw. I fully support you. People spend money on way stupider things and if you genuinely hate your face, I don't think it's a bad idea to change it. One of my favorite writers did a piece about plastic surgery that I found to be fascinating. Her conclusion wasn't that plastic surgery is only for the vain. It's mostly centered around women, but maybe there's value to you.
It's due to how isolated capitalism has made our society.
I would argue that there is a big difference between capitalism, which has existed from the dawn of humanity, and what we have today, which is turning everyone into a consumer and nothing else.
I think it’s safe to say that there has not been an attack of Christian morality among young men. This is the most secular generation in American history. Clearly what is happening is that men are lonely, screen obsessed, and find porn to be a quick and easy substitute for an actual woman. It is a terrible dilemma, and one that will only be resolved through understanding ourselves as children of God, rather than atomized individual consumers who live to maximize pleasure.
Again, who are they to judge someone's motivation for having sex with lots of women, as long as it's consensual? And what if many women are okay with being sexually objectified, who are secular liberals to judge that? Liberation. My body my choice.
If your motivation for having sex with lots of women is to attain the highest body count you can, then I am going to judge you for it. I think that’s weird and creepy and objectifying. It’s not weird if you’re just sexually active and enjoy it for what it is. It’s only weird if it’s some sort of competitive hierarchy thing.
That's nice, but you're not actually going to know. As it has been stated already, nobody objectifies women to their face, they say whatever the woman wants to hear so that they can get laid. Then they talk about body counts with their male friends later.
I promise you that the vast majority of the men you have slept with would prefer to have had sex with more women than they have and discuss such things with their friends. And of course it's objectifying. The entire idea of casual sex is objectifying.
If your motivation for having sex with lots of women is to attain the highest body count you can, then I am going to judge you for it. I think that’s weird and creepy and objectifying. It’s not weird if you’re just sexually active and enjoy it for what it is. It’s only weird if it’s some sort of competitive hierarchy thing.
That's nice, but you're not actually going to know. As it has been stated already, nobody objectifies women to their face, they say whatever the woman wants to hear so that they can get laid. Then they talk about body counts with their male friends later.
I promise you that the vast majority of the men you have slept with would prefer to have had sex with more women than they have and discuss such things with their friends. And of course it's objectifying. The entire idea of casual sex is objectifying.
If you can't tell that I'm a guy from previous posts I've made on this thread (and on this website), I'm not sure how serious anyone should take anything you say. Not sure if you just started on page 4 but maybe read through the thread first so you don't get such simple stuff wrong.
And "the entire idea of casual sex is objectifying" is taking it too far. A silly level of generalization.
It's due to how isolated capitalism has made our society.
I would argue that there is a big difference between capitalism, which has existed from the dawn of humanity, and what we have today, which is turning everyone into a consumer and nothing else.
You're confusing markets with capitalism. There's a huge distinction between the two.
That's nice, but you're not actually going to know. As it has been stated already, nobody objectifies women to their face, they say whatever the woman wants to hear so that they can get laid. Then they talk about body counts with their male friends later.
I promise you that the vast majority of the men you have slept with would prefer to have had sex with more women than they have and discuss such things with their friends. And of course it's objectifying. The entire idea of casual sex is objectifying.
If you can't tell that I'm a guy from previous posts I've made on this thread (and on this website), I'm not sure how serious anyone should take anything you say. Not sure if you just started on page 4 but maybe read through the thread first so you don't get such simple stuff wrong.
And "the entire idea of casual sex is objectifying" is taking it too far. A silly level of generalization.
Whether you’re a man or not is irrelevant to the point. Replace “you” with “women.” My apologies for not noticing your illustrious history of masculine posts on LetsRun.
to address the actual point:
“Sexual objectification is the act of treating a person solely as an object of sexual desire.”
”Casual sex is sexual activity that takes place outside a romantic relationship and implies an absence of commitment, emotional attachment, or familiarity between sexual partners.”
If there’s no commitment, emotional attachment, or familiarity, pretty much all that’s left is filling each others sexual needs. Which is fine, and frequently what both people want. Pretending that’s a ‘silly generalization’ and that there’s some greater nuance to it seems like the opinion of someone who can’t come to terms with a purely physical attraction being okay.
Just because someone may be proud of being successful sexually doesn’t mean that they are only sexually active to achieve bragging rights. A man that is more successful romantically/sexually is seen as higher value by other men. That’s just unfortunately how society works.
Feeling a sense of accomplishment for these things doesn’t mean you are objectifying women, or using them. That’s a leap in logic. I know my intimacy statistics and will sometimes share them when I feel it’s necessary. I’m glad that I’ve learned the skills necessary to be able to attract women. That doesn’t mean the people I’ve been intimate with were people I was hooking up with to increase the stats.
That sounds truly bizarre. Under what circumstances do you "feel it's necessary" to share your intimacy statistics?
80% of available females are having sex with the top 20% of available males.
I guess due to dating/hook up apps making it easier for women.
I am in the top 10% of men, probably top 2% from what I can gather, if not top 1%. Even living in my smallish town of 60,000 people, there are more women who want to have sex with me than I can even fit into my schedule. I am not lying. I have sex with 3-4 women per week most weeks, some being regulars and some are new. I've had multiple women ask me to marry them, multiple married women try to cheat on their husbands with me, and multiple married women tell me they would leave their husband for me. Right now I am actively dating about 5 different women and sleeping with all of them regularly. The part that people find unbelievable is that these are totally normal women, not hoes. They all get upset with me because even being a pretty major stud, I can only have sex about 5X/week typically, which is not enough to fully satisfy my harem, but they stay anyway.
Meanwhile, one of my closest friends is 39 years old, makes $90k/year, is average looking, and has had 5 partners in his entire life. I have to think that if guys like me didn't exist, guys like him would have a much easier time. Hypergamy is absolutely real.
Just because someone may be proud of being successful sexually doesn’t mean that they are only sexually active to achieve bragging rights. A man that is more successful romantically/sexually is seen as higher value by other men. That’s just unfortunately how society works.
Feeling a sense of accomplishment for these things doesn’t mean you are objectifying women, or using them. That’s a leap in logic. I know my intimacy statistics and will sometimes share them when I feel it’s necessary. I’m glad that I’ve learned the skills necessary to be able to attract women. That doesn’t mean the people I’ve been intimate with were people I was hooking up with to increase the stats.
That sounds truly bizarre. Under what circumstances do you "feel it's necessary" to share your intimacy statistics?
Balloon animals and intimacy statistics really liven up a party.
