Wow, interesting/moronic take. Take out Grant Fisher, and what do you have? You have a dozen plus athletes making Olympic/World teams over the the last 8-10 years.I didn't know Tinman Elite had a dozen plus athletes make national teams over the last two Olympic cycles.
Wtf? Moh Ahmed, Evan Jager, cranny, Schweizer, Kincaid, mcgorty??? Olympic medals, wc medals, AR’s, CR’s… Talk about a really bad take. You’re either super biased or just poorly educated when it comes to athletics- probably both.
absolutely ridiculous to state that having a stanford engineering degree would make you less likely to dope. I have no opinion as to whether Grant Fisher is doping or not, but his education certainly plays no part in it.
The 2012 Harvard cheating scandal involved approximately 125 Harvard University students who were investigated for cheating on the take-home final examination of the spring 2012 edition of Government 1310: "Introduction to Co...
I agree with the above. Why join a club with a doping shadow and a BANNED athlete? Why isn't BTC getting the same treatment as Jama "The Syringe" Aden's group?
I still haven't gotten a satisfying reason to believe BTC is doping. I can believe that individual athletes are doping on their own, but I don't think there's anyone joining the group and finding out afterwards that they dope all of their athletes. It absolutely would have leaked by now. I'm also completely convinced that Fisher is clean. There's no way someone with a Stanford engineering degree is going to risk their professional reputation to dope in distance running.
It may seem like a bad business decision, but I think it's way more likely that it was the best decision she had if she wants to pursue running. She graduated from Stanford. Maybe I'm putting too much stock into it, but I feel like if you graduate from Stanford, you're probably making pretty good life decisions.
You are absolutely caught up in the Ivy league degree. Being really smart doesn't win gold medals and society doesn't really idolize really smart people like we do athletes and actors/ musicians, etc.
That being said I think Shelby was intentionally doping. Whether it's team wide I don't know but anyone suspicious of the NOP should have just as much concern with the BTC if not more...
Can you moderate posts to prevent every conversation and topic into an uninformed debate about who is or is not doping? It's beyond ponderous and it's the worst thing about Letsrun.
Also, an edit feature for prior posts would be nice:) Everyone knows that Shelby Houlihan tested positive for doping and that she was a part of BTC. Maybe you think she was innocent or maybe you don't. Maybe you think that implicates the whole group or maybe you don't. But this is not new or interesting, people.
ON Athletics is getting better talent. ON is the better club right now.
Without Grant Fisher, BTC is basically Tinman Elite.
There are plenty of justifiable shots that can be taken at BTC. Insulting the sheer amount of talent assembled there and relevance on international (and megastardom on the national) level is not of those shots.
Also, an edit feature for prior posts would be nice:) Everyone knows that Shelby Houlihan tested positive for doping and that she was a part of BTC. Maybe you think she was innocent or maybe you don't. Maybe you think that implicates the whole group or maybe you don't. But this is not new or interesting, people.
Correct, it's not new, but her doping, and her coaches still supporting her, could be quite relevant for people deciding to join, or not join, such a team. So that will come up every time someone joins or leaves BTC, as in this thread.