Leo and Lex Young commit to Stanford

They developed Cory Primm well a few years back as an 800m runner.

Ferdinand Edman

Lane Werley top 25 XC?

Andre Luck was an architecture major, and football is vastly more time consuming.

Andrew Luck

It's both, believe me. It's harder for Asians, but it's nearly as difficult for whites. Hispanics are underrepresented in top schools' classes as well but they don't tend to be as qualified.

You often see someone with a 4.0, 1580+ or 36, and great extracurriculars get rejected from pretty much all top colleges because they're the wrong race, while a black applicant would be accepted everywhere. Colleges increased their "diversity goals" in the past 5 years by a lot - before, the black students at colleges would tend to be (I'm only half joking) Nigerian princes or high-achieving (i.e. also 4.0, 1550+, 35+) kids of African or Caribbean immigrants, but since they're not "Black" enough (archived WSJ article) top colleges had to accept lesser-qualified black students, but they can't just increase their class by ~150 kids so they have to make cuts elsewhere, so they axe Asians and whites.

That is super impressive.

However, on the monetary side, I see that average salary for an architect in California is $98k vs $124k for a registered nurse.

The more acronyms you use, the fewer the people who understand you. Why should we try to figure out which of various things you might mean? What is IB? Not international baccalaureate. Is VC venture capital? What is PE? You're not the worst of them either. What's up with the T5, USACO, USAMO guy?

Investment Banking

Venture Capital

Private Equity

And you're right. People shouldn't use so many acronyms.

acronyms:

IB - investment banking, especially used to refer to bankers at top banks (i.e. Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, etc)

VC - venture capital

PE - private equity

T5 - top 5 college

USACO - US coding olympiad

USAMO - US math olympiad

and to add on to USACO/USAMO, performing very well in these competitions is very useful in getting a quant job

How is football vastly more time consuming? Collegiate players are limited to 20 hours per week. Somone like Luke who took architecture was likely taking 15 hours a week in classes. How many extra hours a day did he spend on studying and labs?

"20 hours per week" = 40-50 hours in reality

20 hours per week is the limit to organized activities, but they have to watch film and lift which the team can avoid reporting

adding on to this, "voluntary" workouts (that you need to go to if you want to play) don't count towards the 20 hour limit

So you are claiming they spend 10 hours a day on just football-related activities. Another 3 hours a day in classes. Maybe 5 hours a day on labs and studying and library work? We are already up to 18 hours out of 24 hours and haven't discusses breakfast, lunch and dinner PLUS sleeping and socializing. So we are up to 40 hours out of a 24 hour day?

1) It's 5-6 hours per day when you include the weekend

2) They barely do any academic work at all - if there is an athlete in actually rigorous classes, he's the exception to the rule, and he'll have study halls and personal tutors booked for him so he can maintain his grades.

3) Adding on to point 2, most athletes who aren't there to "play school" either do one of two things: either they're forced by their coaches and/or the "athlete academic compliance department" (the people who aren't affiliated with the team, but make sure the athletes keep up their GPAs and try to get them learn a tiny bit) to go to class and there's someone checking every day to make sure they're their, or they are placed into paper classes.

Paper classes are ones where attendance isn't mandatory and that only rely on a final paper as a grade; see the quote below for an example of an athlete's paper that received an A-.

"On the evening of December Rosa Parks decided that she was going to sit in the white people section on the bus in Montgomery, Alabama. During this time blacks had to give up there seats to whites when more whites got on the bus. Rosa Parks refused to give up her seat. Her and the bus driver began to talk and the conversation went like this. “Let me have those front seats” said the driver. She didn’t get up and told the driver that she was tired of giving her seat to white people. “I’m going to have you arrested,” said the driver. “You may do that,” Rosa Parks responded. Two white policemen came in and Rosa Parks asked them “why do you all push us around?” The police officer replied and said “I don’t know, but the law is the law and you’re under arrest."

where are you getting any of this information

I know multiple former D1 football athletes (though not at Alabama or a similar caliber program) who quit because they wanted to focus on schoolwork and had no time outside of class.

I also had the opportunity to run D1 but I passed it up to run D3 (for a couple of years) for the ability to have free time so I could get better internships. The schools I was deciding between were the same quality - they were actually in the same city - so I picked the one that would allow me to pursue more interests than just running

Business Insider (I know they're not the most reliable, but they're fine here) has published multiple articles about it, or you can just Google "Fox/CNN/MSNBC (or your favorite network) UNC athletics scandal 2014".

When Oosting and Hicks were freshmen at Stanford they ran European jr cross country championships. Will be interesting to see if the Youngsters continue a similar trend and run jr Worlds in Tallahassee 2024.

none of this information is relevant to Stanford which was the topic of this post