Eileen Feng Gu (born September 3, 2003), also known by her Chinese name Gu Ailing (Chinese: 谷爱凌), is an American-born Olympic gold medalist freestyle skier and model. She has competed for China in halfpipe, slopestyle, and...
1580/1600 on SAT. Not perfect, but is able to somewhat compensate with other stuff…
The good news for Lex and Leo….nobody on campus outside of their coaches and teammates will care one wit about whether or not they emerge as star runners. They can toil away in blissful anonymity, get faster or not, and be regular college students.
We only have Hall, Jennings… in mind, who really did nothing with their diploma
Name top 10 Stanford runners who made it big because of their diploma. What are they doing now? Top runner needs to have been an NCAA finalist (at minimum).
I don’t agree with what you’re implying but am actually very interested in the answers to this
I raced against some.. let's see my class as are connected on LinkedIn.. I would have loved to have graduated from Stanford and hope my kids have the opportunity.
Look at 75th percentile and then 90th, 95th, and 98th percentile income for Asian or white males in CS from a top 5 college. Colleges collect this data, but you'll have to do a lot of digging to find it.
Or just look at CS in general. If you discount non-STEM majors and those who go into grad school immediately (they count as income of $0), the average starting salary for Ivies is much closer to ~130-140k.
they're probably not good academically though. if you have a 2.5 GPA in "exercise studies", even from Stanford, no FAANG or more prestigious firm will hire you.
Leo and Lex are both reasonably smart. Not as smart as the 4.0 GPA and perfect SAT score that some incoming Stanford students have, but they won't be getting a lousy GPA in a stupid degree.
You clearly have spent no time around Stanford or anyone who went to Stanford because this is completely wrong.
1. Stanford has massive grade inflation and a lot of athletes there have GPAs in the mid to high 3’s. They have A+ that account for a 4.3 gpa and a lot of introductory courses are easy to get this in.
2. Have you ever told someone you went to Stanford. There is an immediate reaction. The name brand is obvious.
3. Most of the guys on the team now are not in “exercise studies” go look at the roster the majority of those degrees look legit to me. STS is a bit of a joke there but if you saw “Science Technology and Society” you wouldn’t know it was a joke at Stanford. Most FAANG companies have 6 figure starting salaries. You’re probably naive enough to assume those jobs are reserved for the brightest students at Stanford but you’re wrong. Anyone who goes there with a computer science background is likely to get a 6 figure job out of college even if it is not at a FAANG Company
4. You’re neglecting the most important part — connections. The number of highly intelligent and successful people you meet at Stanford is greater than any other school and you can leverage those connections for life. How many billionaires have gone to NAU? How many millionaires? Almost every living Stanford alumni shared campus with a future billionaire. Have you ever thought about going to school with Bill Gates or Steve Jobs daughter. That’s a normal part of existence at stanford. There are few schools at the country who can share that.
They're not dumb, but there's a big difference between a good HS GPA at a decent high school and being surrounded by some of the smartest college students who got in through merit (academics and extracurriculars, not athletics). STEM classes, especially those graded on a curve, will be brutal for them.
If you are a CS major and can't get a job at FAANG (especially Amazon - their hiring standards are the lowest) you're a trash coder.
Keep in mind that most students don't go into CS (there are only 65,000 new CS degrees per year), and that the average American IQ is only 100. Someone who gets Bs and Cs in a CS major from a weak state school (not Berkeley, UIUC, or Georgia Tech) shouldn't be considered a CS major anyway.
Got to UO. Run pro until your 35. Work for Nike. Realistically if any of these guys plan on chasing Olympic dreams the Stanford grad with no work experience outside of professional runner and the nau grad look the same 13 years post graduation.
do you think grant fisher has career waiting for him outside of running (I know he has impressive academic credentials). but not sure if those will be very meaningful a decade more after not practicing them.
the Stanford degree only matters for those that don’t make it as a runner. That probably won’t be the young’s (although they have increased their odds of failing to go pro dramatically by choosing stanfraud.)
13 years… Not many have such longevity.
As for Fisher. EE major from Stanford is the hardest undergrad curriculum at Stanford. He is also working on his masters in Management Science and Engineering from Stanford with some very nerdy focus according to Mo Ahmed in their interview when Fisher broke the US indoor 5k record. Fisher has said he is doing such for life after running. Probably a lot more to his statement and his plans but if he stays healthy he may have a 13 year professional career.
Do you really think that people would not give the nod to someone who has shown they can get into a top university, get a degree go on to do a pro athletic stint and all that goes with that that the vast majority of the employable public will never achieve?
I am a retired business owner and would hire athletes over others because they innately new how to compete and not give up at something, they showed up to work and had a positive influence on others. Worked like a charm.
Yes, Grant Fisher has a career after running and outside of running. If he so chooses and based on the contacts he will have made, a guy like him could do his own start-up. Nike would be foolish not to hire him as he would have the ability to run that company down the road.
To all of you athletes reading this thread, don’t listen to people that tell you you will be obsolete is you pursue your athletic dreams after college. Go for it, you live once and are young once. You will know when it is time to shift away from that and on to something else and not necessarily in running.
You're correct that most people can't get into PE or quant straight out of college even from a T5. You're also right about FAANG salaries.
That said, only ~10% of most incoming T5 classes are CS, and another 10% are CS-adjacent (I'd call physics CS adjacent, as well as math (duh) or some engineering disciplines). Most people majoring in CS or math don't get in through affirmative action, so they have some of the best extracurriculars at the colleges (i.e. high placement in USACO/USAMO, good Putnam score if they take it in college, etc); the ones that did are almost never competitive. Then consider that some CS majors go into finance, and others work for FAANG or startups. So, we've whittled down the incoming class from ~2,000 to ~40-60. If you're a top 30 CS student at Stanford, especially if you're double majoring/minoring in math, you should be able to get any quant job you want.
New grad quant salaries tend to start at $300k, but a fair amount go up to $400k if it's a more "prestigious" firm. The highest I've ever seen someone get was ~550k, but he was basically the #1 math student from China/India (being slightly vague for his privacy).
