When I mean world class times, I mean making US teams. Cain ran sub-2 and made the 1500 finals in 2013 worlds. Tuohy was never close to making a national team. This is not a dig on Tuohy. It makes total sense for Cain to go pro, but Tuohy was not running at a world level in HS. Hence I don't get the comparison between them.
this post makes it sound like cain made it to the senior world championships, she clearly did not , so went to check and
she was in world JUNIOR championships, and based on the results in the years where katelyn could have went, she could have medal for the united states too.
then the 1500m silver was from NACAC U23 Championships which was "... an athletics competition held between the member associations of the North American, Central American and Caribbean Athletic Association"
that doesn;t seem "world class" when u only compete against canada, mexico, el salvador few other countries etc.
anyways what a silly thing to argue at and compare now, one is a runner who's got a bright future ahead, one's just an normal american citizen
The other poster said that Cain wasn’t a team player because she decided to go pro. Cain is being criticized fordoing something thousands of others have done and Touhy is being praised for, uh, attending college on an athletic scholarship.
the latter is the proven "better" decision by the way, i bet mary cain paid for college after she stopped running, if she went back to school.
Many baseball players turn down large bonuses to play in college. It seems odd since the best ones will go pro after their 3rd year and never earn a degree, but I guess they prefer the college environment to riding a bus in the South somewhere.
Mary Cain was let down by the people she trusted but she herself made a lot of wrong decisions. People always like to blame her but on the other side, it is because of her that Katelyn Tuohy was able to know which decisions not to make. Katelyn Tuohy is what Mary Cain could have been if not for going pro after high school.
Is this English?
Sounds like a kid giving a presentation on something they read 5 minutes before class.
Mary Cain was let down by the people she trusted but she herself made a lot of wrong decisions. People always like to blame her but on the other side, it is because of her that Katelyn Tuohy was able to know which decisions not to make. Katelyn Tuohy is what Mary Cain could have been if not for going pro after high school.
LOL, Cain was expected to be like Athing Mu Winning Multiple World and Olympic Titles, The American Record was supposed to be a Given, Cain was expected to set World Records, Run under 3:50 for 1500, Even now with Athing Mu it is possible she gets the 1:53.28 World Record but the odds age against it, but Cain was a total flop based on what she was Expected to do, as expectations were just too high. And no one knew she was so mentally Weak and she could not handle a coach calling her fat (she has never been fat) but her coach told her to lose a couple of pounds to maximize her performance, and that broke her mentally.
For a distance runner , going pro directly out of high school almost never works. A distance runner going pro in high school is a recipe for disaster . Tuohy learned from Mary Cain’s mistakes
tuohy was always a team first hs runner and is a great teammate right now. She enjoys her team and helping her teammates. She would sacrifice individual events to run relays at nationals in HS. Cain's and her parents threw a fit when she was asked to run relays and that was part of the reason for quitting HS. She refused to run with the girls coach and the girls team. The two are not comparable at all. One let her HS coach lead her, one said she was too good for her HS coach. One ran relays and enjoyed leading her teammates to victories, one refused to run relays. One said she was already too fast to run college, one didn't care and knew she wanted to be with friends and teammates.
For a distance runner , going pro directly out of high school almost never works. A distance runner going pro in high school is a recipe for disaster . Tuohy learned from Mary Cain’s mistakes
You’re bashing Cain for making the same decision that thousands of other HS athletes have made and being a distance runner makes the decision no different. Maybe she takes the college route, doesn’t run well and the pro offer goes away. For her, taking the money and being coached by Salazar seemed like a great opportunity at the time. She was on the cusp of being a world class runner.
I seriously doubt Tuohy was thinking about Cain when she made her decision. Was she offered the same amount of money as Cain to turn pro? A sponsor for her would probably have projected it could take 5+ years for Tuohy to become world class.
Here is rub: everyone who knows Katlyn Tuohy speaks well of her. I’ve never heard of anyone who was a teammate of Mary Cain speak well of her. Character matters.
