Mary Cain was let down by the people she trusted but she herself made a lot of wrong decisions. People always like to blame her but on the other side, it is because of her that Katelyn Tuohy was able to know which decisions not to make. Katelyn Tuohy is what Mary Cain could have been if not for going pro after high school.
Katelyn and her family valued being normal and wanted her to have a normal life, and going to college and running in the NCAA. The decisions of Cain made no impact on Tuohy's decisions whatsoever.
Bad caption but very insightful post by OP. Cain and Tuohy had virtually the same background. No coach or program was good enough for Mary . Tuohy was always about the team. Two very different outcomes.
Bad caption but very insightful post by OP. Cain and Tuohy had virtually the same background. No coach or program was good enough for Mary . Tuohy was always about the team. Two very different outcomes.
I guess the thousands of baseball players that go pro out of HS, aren’t about the team.
Mary Cain was let down by the people she trusted but she herself made a lot of wrong decisions. People always like to blame her but on the other side, it is because of her that Katelyn Tuohy was able to know which decisions not to make. Katelyn Tuohy is what Mary Cain could have been if not for going pro after high school.
why credit's someone's success over someone's life mistakes... what happened to mary cain did not alter katelyn's life nor decisions, what it altered was the predictions, it resulted to people predicting katelyn would slow just like mary cain ... but she did not.
Bad caption but very insightful post by OP. Cain and Tuohy had virtually the same background. No coach or program was good enough for Mary . Tuohy was always about the team. Two very different outcomes.
I guess the thousands of baseball players that go pro out of HS, aren’t about the team.
baseball is a team sport, running isnt. even cross country goes down to a competition between teammates
Cain was running world class times at a young age. Touhy was not even close.
pretty sure katelyn ran world class time at 15 years old, her 15:37 at 2018 was world no.4 and she was 15
When I mean world class times, I mean making US teams. Cain ran sub-2 and made the 1500 finals in 2013 worlds. Tuohy was never close to making a national team. This is not a dig on Tuohy. It makes total sense for Cain to go pro, but Tuohy was not running at a world level in HS. Hence I don't get the comparison between them.
Bad caption but very insightful post by OP. Cain and Tuohy had virtually the same background. No coach or program was good enough for Mary . Tuohy was always about the team. Two very different outcomes.
LR WRs usually recommend for hot-shot HS runners to take the money but in Cain’s case, it was about selfishness? Was no college coach or program good enough for Kessler?
We are on the same page, I also don't get why people compare 20 year old katelyn, who's a 2x ncaa champion, 3x ncaa runner-up, 6x all-american runner to someone who is now just living a normal american citizen life.
I guess the thousands of baseball players that go pro out of HS, aren’t about the team.
baseball is a team sport, running isnt. even cross country goes down to a competition between teammates
The other poster said that Cain wasn’t a team player because she decided to go pro. Cain is being criticized fordoing something thousands of others have done and Touhy is being praised for, uh, attending college on an athletic scholarship.
pretty sure katelyn ran world class time at 15 years old, her 15:37 at 2018 was world no.4 and she was 15
When I mean world class times, I mean making US teams. Cain ran sub-2 and made the 1500 finals in 2013 worlds. Tuohy was never close to making a national team. This is not a dig on Tuohy. It makes total sense for Cain to go pro, but Tuohy was not running at a world level in HS. Hence I don't get the comparison between them.
this post makes it sound like cain made it to the senior world championships, she clearly did not , so went to check and
she was in world JUNIOR championships, and based on the results in the years where katelyn could have went, she could have medal for the united states too.
then the 1500m silver was from NACAC U23 Championships which was "... an athletics competition held between the member associations of the North American, Central American and Caribbean Athletic Association"
that doesn;t seem "world class" when u only compete against canada, mexico, el salvador few other countries etc.
anyways what a silly thing to argue at and compare now, one is a runner who's got a bright future ahead, one's just an normal american citizen
baseball is a team sport, running isnt. even cross country goes down to a competition between teammates
The other poster said that Cain wasn’t a team player because she decided to go pro. Cain is being criticized fordoing something thousands of others have done and Touhy is being praised for, uh, attending college on an athletic scholarship.
the latter is the proven "better" decision by the way, i bet mary cain paid for college after she stopped running, if she went back to school.
As much as the collegiate system gets trashed on here.
It allows someone to have reachable short and medium term goals with friends who are the same age attempting to accomplish the same thing.
If you're a phenom and choose correctly like tuoey did you're development is impacted positively because of that. Additionally it allows you to rush your development less because you're career isn't yet dependent on you making world and diamond league finals you can develop more at your own pace.
Kessler is going through the same thing right now as well