I tend to agree that this is a step down from beating the top tier Kenyans in Margaret Chelimo Kipkemboi or Hellen Obiri. It's still a very nice victory as Cheptai did finish 6th in Tokyo last year, and she's finished 1st or 2nd in a bunch of high-level races this year. So, she's very competitive and they type of athlete Eilish would need to beat to win some top-level 10KM and Half Marathons on the roads.
The fact that you are so concerned why people are happy she won is sad. Here is the reality - the top 2 distance running countries in the world are Kenya and Ethiopia. Yes, they happen to be black but they have dominated for a long time. It’s nice to give hope to people that are similar to you that it can be done. African athletes can be beaten. I know for a fact that our country was excited when Obama won the 08 election BECAUSE HE IS BLACK. Is that the same bias? Black people tend to support black quarterbacks in the NFL BECAUSE THEY ARE BLACK. Don’t make something out of this that it’s not.
No it isn't. I heard an interview with her, and I liked her personality and how she came across. I also like the fact that her mother is a runner, but appreciate how she must have been compared to her while growing, which might have been difficult. So I cheer on her. I have not heard any interviews with the others (no matter nationality) so I don't cheer on them, naturally.
Yes, it was a great race. Overall, a far better atmosphere at Comm Games compared to the world's a few weeks ago - full stands every night (30k people) in these UK-hosted games too. A wonderful sight for athletics. It's a pleasure to watch the races and even the field events (not normally such a fan of field) - it's just great to watch due to the fantastic atmosphere created by the large crowds.
How sad that World's in Eugene was so badly done and poorly attended in comparison to the Commonwealth Games. It should have been way better than it was!
I remember her mother well and she has paid her dues in the sport, sticking at it and gradually improving to the ranks of mid world finals level. She did beat not only expectations but the Commonwealth Games record and Kiprotich has run 29:46 and 1:04:54 on the roads in Valencia, though she came up hobbling in this race.
You weren't there, you dont know what you are talking about. A bunch of white Europeans cheering loudly for a white, provincial to beat the distant previously overlorded, 3rd world runner in their hometown (small island) is a bit of a homer brag at a minor "championship" meet dont you think? Whats the point of the CG anyway? Up next, Euro championships. Ok. Everything is a letdown after a world event, not something to get all excited about and try to make it out better than a world title or even more than just being a participant at WC. Just enjoy the meet for what it is, not more.
Good question. I know that she's never done much volume. I read an interview where she said not long ago she was running once a day and doing maybe 40-50 mpw and she got hurt if she did more, but now she's up around 65. She didn't say if she was running more than once. It's hard for me to think she can get 2:20 off that kind of volume but she's surprised me with how well she's run on the volume she's done. So you could be right.
The beauty of attributing something to unconscious bias is that even if the person you accuse of it says you're wrong you can continue claiming you're really correct. You're claiming to know more about another person than they know about themselves. Freud did that with his patients and lead to some devastating mistakes.
Yes of course that is true but then the beauty of your point is that unconscious bias can always be denied and then it as if it never exists. Well we know it does. It doesn’t make people evil at all. We all have some share of it. It is perfectly understandable BUT if the Kenyan had won there wouldn’t be much of a thread. We do know that.
The truth is that unconscious bias is a concept that's almost impossible to prove in any given situation. Identifying it involves Person A saying or doing something and Person B creating an explanation as to why A said or did what s/he did. This requires B to attribute a reason to A. Inevitably it becomes reasonable to consider that B's explanation is to some extent a product of B's unconscious biases. You might want to attribute what I'm writing here to unconscious biases on my part, but in this situation I am very conscious of my biases about this topic.