When you guys look at Woodbridge results, you guys are gonna feel so bad for how many good CA teams will be sitting at home during NXN, watching it through the camera
Woodbridge results, state meet results and at-large selection actually
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Arrr wrote:
When you guys look at Woodbridge results, you guys are gonna feel so bad for how many good CA teams will be sitting at home during NXN, watching it through the camera
Man, if Oakdale has a better 5th, they would have not been one of those teams
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What about combining the NewYork and the Northeast together?
Still a good idea?
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its about $ not equity wrote:
Colorado and Utah schools quite willingly travel long distances to Phoenix in November because it's Phoenix. From an equity standpoint, it would make sense to pull Colorado out of SW and put it in HL, but Nike would easily lose tons of revenue as JV level kids on average teams would have no interest whatsoever traveling to Sioux Falls.
Heartland region is getting stronger actually. Wayzata and Stevens Point autoqualified and are so young that they will likely autoqualify again next year
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Hrowo wrote:
My thought was to maybe add Michigan to the Heartland region and to allow them to make NXN. And combine them with Midwest. Midwest seems to be getting weaker.
What about combining the NewYork and the Northeast together?
NY boys teams haven’t been good lately, but the NE boys teams have been good.
NY girls teams have been really good but the NE girls teams have not been very good.
The South region could be combined with Southeast.
This would allow way more teams to make NXN.
MI is already in the MW Region, a girls team took 4th this year. I don't see your comment about the MW "getting weaker". They've got two girls teams that could get top 5 and 2 boys top ten and possibly top 5.
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The South desperately needs some more states, at this point in time it's pretty much just been a Texas region.
And on top of that, the only Non-TX team that would have made it out of this region (and gotten 2nd at NXN) decided on RunningLane.
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my two pennies wrote:
The trends pretty much stay the same. The South desperately needs some more states, at this point in time it's pretty much just been a Texas region.
Based on Runninglane results … if Jesuit chooses NXR, the trend will remain
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its about $ not equity wrote:
Colorado and Utah schools quite willingly travel long distances to Phoenix in November because it's Phoenix. From an equity standpoint, it would make sense to pull Colorado out of SW and put it in HL, but Nike would easily lose tons of revenue as JV level kids on average teams would have no interest whatsoever traveling to Sioux Falls.
Nike loses money on nxn, it's an expense under 'event marketing' with goal to build long term relationship with high school runners. It's a Phil Knight pet project from his days as a runner, and Nike's start as a running shoe brand. Remember coach Bowerman and the waffle iron soles. Most of Nikes sales are now basketball, fitness, fashion, apparel related. When Phil dies and some basketball / finance guy is in charge, nxn will sadly be canceled.
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Sadness wrote:
The South desperately needs some more states, at this point in time it's pretty much just been a Texas region.
And on top of that, the only Non-TX team that would have made it out of this region (and gotten 2nd at NXN) decided on RunningLane.
Which is where they got 4th
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When will the New York region be combined with the Southeast region?
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Combine? wrote:
When will the New York region be combined with the Northeast region?
Maybe it’s time?
Zero New York boys teams ranked nationally
Only one NE girls team and one NY girls team in the top 18.01 -
Combinee? wrote:
Combine? wrote:
When will the New York region be combined with the Northeast region?
Maybe it’s time?
Zero New York boys teams ranked nationally
Only one NE girls team and one NY girls team in the top 18.I'm not from new york (i'm from cali) but if they have consistently been putting a team in the top 10 every year, it is fine. These preseason rankings don't mean squat. The nxn results are what matter in the end.
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NY XC wrote:
Combinee? wrote:
Maybe it’s time?
Zero New York boys teams ranked nationally
Only one NE girls team and one NY girls team in the top 18.Let's re-assess at the end of the season.
Even better let’s re-assess in 2028 or something. Talent fluctuates so highly, it’s impossible to judge a region off of one year or even a couple years. The fact is, Corning was a top 10 national team last year (and probably 2021 as well with the way they dominated NY), CBA is a consistent powerhouse, and both regions often have other teams that are even better. I’d be willing to bet a significant amount of money that within the next 5 years, NY and NE will have a year where they have 3-4 total teams in the top 10 on either gender, while South/SE have 0-1, and it will look like they should be combined instead.
Every region has down years, but taking away opportunities from regions that have had great success historically (even if they are weaker this year) is a big mistake.
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This guy is so right.
New York is a weak region on the boys side
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Prais wrote:
This guy is so right.
New York is a weak region on the boys side
Just make sure you're here to eat crow in 3 months.
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Dyestat’s comment
“Here's a thought: Perhaps it's time to fold New York into the Northeast region and let Utah have a crack at being a one-state "region."”20 -
“Here's a thought: Perhaps it's time to fold New York into the Northeast region and let Utah have a crack at being a one-state "region."”
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The fair solution would be to reduce the number of automatic bids and increase the at-large bids. There will always be a couple of strong regions, even if by random chance. Southwest and California have been ridiculous for years. Some years it's extremely unfair.
Fold the South and southeast into 2 other regions. They obviously don't deserve 2 auto bids. That would free up 4 more at large bids. 8 at large would be much more fair.
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