5 dead at 4th of July parade shooting in Highland Park, Illinois

I’m not one to allow perfect to be the enemy of good, but how do you get rid of over 300,000,000 firearms in the US? How do you stop cartels from trafficking firearms across the porous southern border? Even if you agree with gun control legislation, you can’t eliminate firearms from criminals and then all you are doing is giving law abiding citizens an increased feeling of vulnerability.

Except mass shootings occur in the US at lower rates than they do in the rest of the world. You fall under the righteously angry catergory. To reduce your ignorance, I have linked a study:

papers.ssrn.com

How a Botched Study Fooled the World About the U.S. Share of Mass Public Shootings: U.S. Rate is Lower than Global Average

A paper on mass public shootings by Adam Lankford (2016) has received massive national and international media attention, getting coverage in the New York Times

Link:papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstra...

Or watch a video if reading isn't your kind of thing...

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You'd probably be happy with taking away peoples right to drive a car just because a lot of drunk drivers were killing other drivers.

Having a drivers license or owning a gun is a Privilege not a Right. This is why your local DMV does/does not reinstate your drivers license after vision/driving tests. And why background checks determine if you can buy a fire arm or not.

Get with the program or get lost.

You don't. Everyone knows you don't. It's just a fundraising i$$ue for the Democrat's

Shoutout to the people taking a break from /pol/ and the mods for letting this thread be the shining beacon of all the criticism this site gets all the time. Usually I am one to defend LR but when you let trash like this sit on the front page of the forum for over an hour you force me to side with the pearl clutching redditors and libs saying LR is "toxic."

You all think you're making some epic logic point with "muh 13/50." Nobody cares. If you or anyone in power actually cared about so-called "black on black crime" they would have addressed the root cause decades ago - POVERTY.

A gun is just a tool...The bigger question is why are we beset with evil people doing evil things? This phenomina started recently.

We all make mistakes but you really need to work on your spelling and grammar.

Your gun stance already marks you as an idiot. Your lack of punctuation and spelling doesn’t help.

That "study" is by a gun rights advocate. That is like citing a study by ExxonMobil about global warming. And the study is pure garbage. The author actual finds that Finland has more mass shootings than the US. Finland.

Arms are going the other direction on the southern border. Mexico actually has decent gun control laws. Cartels get all their guns from the US>

As for getting rid of 300 mil firearms, you don't have to get rid of every gun to make a difference. That is like saying we can't do anything about global warming unless we can get rid of every source of CO2.

What we can do is pack the Supreme Court and reverse all the 2nd amendment cases. We need universal federal firearm registration and licensing. Then, strict laws on gun storage and sales. If your firearm is lost or stole or sold without going through a licensed gun dealer (another reform), then you are strictly liable for any harm that firearm causes and you will be charged with a felony if you cannot show that you used reasonable care. That would go a long way to keeping guns from flowing so freely to anyone looking to shoot up a school or parade. Plenty more where that came from.

Exactly.

A well motivated person/s could do almost the same damage with a ball peen hammer.

Probably most posters here don't know even know what a ball peen hammer is.

The Mob likes using these

Then convince the President, VP, Senators, Governors and Congressional Representatives to forego all the security personnel protecting them with guns and any guns that they themselves might carry. That would be leadership.

But, I think it would be stupid leadership as many non-politicians in the USA have relied on guns to successfully defend themselves from criminals and would-be criminals, deterred by the very guns you imply should be stripped from these self-protectors.

Well, no. If you actually read the paper the author found 43 shootings in the US compared to 3 in Finland. Math isn't my strong suit, but I'm pretty sure that 43 is more than 3. You probably should have actually read the study. What he did find is that the rate of mass shootings per capita in Finland was higher for the given time period.

Roy if you think packing the Supreme Court is going to overturn the 2A you need to keep thinking. Your packed Court might be able to over turn the 1A but there will be a lot of burnt cordite powder wafting through the air if you try messing with the 2A.

I have several ball peen hammers, although one is more of a planishing hammer.

It's a social, political and popular culture problem, that's distinctly American.