NP does have some runners who went to other schools in the past.
Martinez went to Oaks Christian in Fall 2019.
Nathan Porter went to Westlake freshman year.
I found an Arnav Shetty that ran CC in 8th grade for a school in Illinois in 2019. Might be the same one that goes to Newbury Park.
The Sloan brothers (Jonah - junior and Noah - freshmen) ran for Lady of Assumption MS in 2019. Not sure if that school associates with Newbury Park. Can’t find that middle school in Newbury Park’s district.
list of middle schools in the same district as Newbury Park:
Martinez and Porter will be the only ones that make varsity this coming fall, but I think all of them will make it in 2023 (Except for Martinez who will be in college)
Yeah, most of them have a difficult time breaking 6:00 in the open mile.
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Wouldn’t be surprising since Cantu lives so far away from Newbury Park
He’s not the only one. It’s just part of the culture. I really don’t think any of them know it’s against the rules.
You keep going back to this 'rules' thing. What rules? What organization is making rules that are in any way binding. Imaginary rules created by folks who think there is an ethical right and wrong do not apply to anyone other than the individual who believes those things. As pointed out earlier, every good school in every team sport openly and unapologetically recruits. NP's roster didn't go K-6 in that District. I thought everyone knew this. Various posters on this thread seem to.
Why is it just in running that anyone thinks HS recruiting is bad form. Remeber when Loudon Valley generated about 20% the number of threads (which is to say, more than one per day) NP does? The front page always had 1-3 LV threads. They would devolve into 'the Hunters actively recruit' vs. 'they don't'. I didn't follow them much but finally posted on one of the threads. I asked why Joan herself, their fan club, whoever, didn't admit it and even brag about it. Being a great coach is one thing. Being that plus a great recruiter is even better!
He’s not the only one. It’s just part of the culture. I really don’t think any of them know it’s against the rules.
You keep going back to this 'rules' thing. What rules? What organization is making rules that are in any way binding. Imaginary rules created by folks who think there is an ethical right and wrong do not apply to anyone other than the individual who believes those things. As pointed out earlier, every good school in every team sport openly and unapologetically recruits. NP's roster didn't go K-6 in that District. I thought everyone knew this. Various posters on this thread seem to.
Why is it just in running that anyone thinks HS recruiting is bad form. Remeber when Loudon Valley generated about 20% the number of threads (which is to say, more than one per day) NP does? The front page always had 1-3 LV threads. They would devolve into 'the Hunters actively recruit' vs. 'they don't'. I didn't follow them much but finally posted on one of the threads. I asked why Joan herself, their fan club, whoever, didn't admit it and even brag about it. Being a great coach is one thing. Being that plus a great recruiter is even better!
The CIF rules which govern how sports in California operate. There is an entire rule book, believe it or not and the below is just a small sample of what is specified regarding recruiting.
CIF Bylaw 510 (Undue Influence – Recruiting) prohibits any person or persons to secure, retain or influence what high school a student attends. In both cases, there are severe penalties for both the student-athlete and the school. The student-athlete penalty could include ineligibility for up to 24 months.
He’s not the only one. It’s just part of the culture. I really don’t think any of them know it’s against the rules.
You keep going back to this 'rules' thing. What rules? What organization is making rules that are in any way binding. Imaginary rules created by folks who think there is an ethical right and wrong do not apply to anyone other than the individual who believes those things. As pointed out earlier, every good school in every team sport openly and unapologetically recruits. NP's roster didn't go K-6 in that District. I thought everyone knew this. Various posters on this thread seem to.
Why is it just in running that anyone thinks HS recruiting is bad form. Remeber when Loudon Valley generated about 20% the number of threads (which is to say, more than one per day) NP does? The front page always had 1-3 LV threads. They would devolve into 'the Hunters actively recruit' vs. 'they don't'. I didn't follow them much but finally posted on one of the threads. I asked why Joan herself, their fan club, whoever, didn't admit it and even brag about it. Being a great coach is one thing. Being that plus a great recruiter is even better!
This is satire right? Surely you realize high school sports has rules and governing bodies in each state.
Newbury Park is watched by psychopaths with nothing better to do. They don’t break the rules. Just jealous coaches who dont understand how to coach or run a team file anonymous complaints. it happens to every great program . Welcome to the woke world of coaching HS. How dare they be so good. How dare they
Newbury Park is watched by psychopaths with nothing better to do. They don’t break the rules. Just jealous coaches who dont understand how to coach or run a team file anonymous complaints. it happens to every great program . Welcome to the woke world of coaching HS. How dare they be so good. How dare they
Sure thing Sean. Everyone is just jealous. All 15 of the rule violation reports you mention in the NYT article were made up and just jealous coaches who don't know how to coach.
I don't have any inside info but transferring to Newbury Park High School is pretty common for a number of reasons some sports and some academic.
First off Newbury Park isn't its own city but part of the larger city of Thousand Oaks (130,000 residents) and the high school is part of Conejo Valley School District which also serves a few other cities / incorporated areas of Ventura County. The Conejo Valley district has 5 high schools and these are fed by multiple middle schools and students switch schools within the district for a variety of reasons.
Newbury Park High School is one of only two International Baccalaureate programs in Ventura County (population 850,000) so there is a strong academic draw and it is not uncommon for students outside the district (but living in surrounding cities) to apply and attend NP. In addition to academics some other common reasons for Interdistrict Transfer include: childcare i.e. a person may live outside the district but work in the Conejo Valley District. They may want a specialized program offered by NP or the Conejo district, a sibling might attend, their parents might have divorced and one lives in the district or one out, they maybe moving out of district but want to continue their enrollment at the school they were attending, they may actually be moving into the district.
While transferring to Conejo from out of district for athletics isn't an official reason it certainly has happened in the past and as others have mentioned this isn't atypical anytime you have school districts that overlap multiple cities. I live only a few miles from the Conejo district boundary and so we have different schools that serve us but I have a few neighbors whose children attend NP. One did it for track, another did it for the IB program. Other states may be different but in California inter district transfers are pretty common as our school districts are a bit of a hot mess. Some encompass entire cities some include parts of multiple cities and it isn't uncommon for a smaller city to actually be part of three school districts.
I used to live in Saratoga, CA a city of 30,000. It was actually served by 4 different school districts Saratoga Union School District, Campbell Union School District, Cupertino Union School District and Moreland School District. Depending on your street address your child might attend one of the school districts in California and another child living less than a mile away in the same zip code might be assigned a subpar district and attend a school located in a separate city from where they live.
Recruiting athletes from out of district while long disallowed has long been practiced especially for football and basketball.
Newbury Park is watched by psychopaths with nothing better to do. They don’t break the rules. Just jealous coaches who dont understand how to coach or run a team file anonymous complaints. it happens to every great program . Welcome to the woke world of coaching HS. How dare they be so good. How dare they
How are you so certain they don’t break the rules? Are you some sort of Np insider or expert or just a delusional fan that can’t possibly believe they would do something wrong?
I don't have any inside info but transferring to Newbury Park High School is pretty common for a number of reasons some sports and some academic.
First off Newbury Park isn't its own city but part of the larger city of Thousand Oaks (130,000 residents) and the high school is part of Conejo Valley School District which also serves a few other cities / incorporated areas of Ventura County. The Conejo Valley district has 5 high schools and these are fed by multiple middle schools and students switch schools within the district for a variety of reasons.
Newbury Park High School is one of only two International Baccalaureate programs in Ventura County (population 850,000) so there is a strong academic draw and it is not uncommon for students outside the district (but living in surrounding cities) to apply and attend NP. In addition to academics some other common reasons for Interdistrict Transfer include: childcare i.e. a person may live outside the district but work in the Conejo Valley District. They may want a specialized program offered by NP or the Conejo district, a sibling might attend, their parents might have divorced and one lives in the district or one out, they maybe moving out of district but want to continue their enrollment at the school they were attending, they may actually be moving into the district.
While transferring to Conejo from out of district for athletics isn't an official reason it certainly has happened in the past and as others have mentioned this isn't atypical anytime you have school districts that overlap multiple cities. I live only a few miles from the Conejo district boundary and so we have different schools that serve us but I have a few neighbors whose children attend NP. One did it for track, another did it for the IB program. Other states may be different but in California inter district transfers are pretty common as our school districts are a bit of a hot mess. Some encompass entire cities some include parts of multiple cities and it isn't uncommon for a smaller city to actually be part of three school districts.
I used to live in Saratoga, CA a city of 30,000. It was actually served by 4 different school districts Saratoga Union School District, Campbell Union School District, Cupertino Union School District and Moreland School District. Depending on your street address your child might attend one of the school districts in California and another child living less than a mile away in the same zip code might be assigned a subpar district and attend a school located in a separate city from where they live.
Recruiting athletes from out of district while long disallowed has long been practiced especially for football and basketball.
All may be valid points, but if they do in fact recruit, it is against rules. Just because others break the rules, doesn’t make it right, This may sound crazy, but there are coaches who compete successfully within the rules.
I don't have any inside info but transferring to Newbury Park High School is pretty common for a number of reasons some sports and some academic.
First off Newbury Park isn't its own city but part of the larger city of Thousand Oaks (130,000 residents) and the high school is part of Conejo Valley School District which also serves a few other cities / incorporated areas of Ventura County. The Conejo Valley district has 5 high schools and these are fed by multiple middle schools and students switch schools within the district for a variety of reasons.
Newbury Park High School is one of only two International Baccalaureate programs in Ventura County (population 850,000) so there is a strong academic draw and it is not uncommon for students outside the district (but living in surrounding cities) to apply and attend NP. In addition to academics some other common reasons for Interdistrict Transfer include: childcare i.e. a person may live outside the district but work in the Conejo Valley District. They may want a specialized program offered by NP or the Conejo district, a sibling might attend, their parents might have divorced and one lives in the district or one out, they maybe moving out of district but want to continue their enrollment at the school they were attending, they may actually be moving into the district.
While transferring to Conejo from out of district for athletics isn't an official reason it certainly has happened in the past and as others have mentioned this isn't atypical anytime you have school districts that overlap multiple cities. I live only a few miles from the Conejo district boundary and so we have different schools that serve us but I have a few neighbors whose children attend NP. One did it for track, another did it for the IB program. Other states may be different but in California inter district transfers are pretty common as our school districts are a bit of a hot mess. Some encompass entire cities some include parts of multiple cities and it isn't uncommon for a smaller city to actually be part of three school districts.
I used to live in Saratoga, CA a city of 30,000. It was actually served by 4 different school districts Saratoga Union School District, Campbell Union School District, Cupertino Union School District and Moreland School District. Depending on your street address your child might attend one of the school districts in California and another child living less than a mile away in the same zip code might be assigned a subpar district and attend a school located in a separate city from where they live.
Recruiting athletes from out of district while long disallowed has long been practiced especially for football and basketball.
All may be valid points, but if they do in fact recruit, it is against rules. Just because others break the rules, doesn’t make it right, This may sound crazy, but there are coaches who compete successfully within the rules.
I don't disagree about the rules or that it is wrong and I am not suggesting that NP does recruit. I think most of these things are self-selective. The people I know who attend NP but live out of district do so b/c their child was good at running and they / their child wanted to go to a winning program with solid coaching.
It is really no different than academics. Schools with strong academics overall or specialty programs will always draw a lot of interest both from within and without of school their district.