Megan Rapinoe supports biological males in girls' sports because "your kid's volleyball team isn't that impor

There are many states that are trying to ban trans girls from sports, but is there any state that is trying to make it less restrictive? There are state that currently do not require medical transitioning, but those policies (or non-policies) have been in place for some time, and I don't see any movement to make it LESS resrtictive anywhere.

Here is the summary of each state's policy.

transathlete.com

TRANSATHLETE High school transgender athlete policies

High school policies for transgender athletes.

Link:www.transathlete.com/k-12

Just another hobby jogger -

My wife's cousin is the department head at a major university in the United States. Easily ranked in the top 10 - perhaps a small notch below a Johns Hopkins. Of course he has peer review work - lots of it - medicine requires it, lots of it. And he is the department chairman. I am hesitant to state his name because his position on this generates a lot of flak. It is also not the main focus of his research. And while he supports transgender people, and supports transition in the right circumstances, his lifelong peer reviewed endocrinology work reflects that there are consequences to medical intervention. Even if you don't agree with him - and frankly you don't seem all that tolerant of divergent views - i can't see how his focus on the externalities that obtain with medical intervention with young people is a negative. We want people to be healthy and happy, and to the extent that some opt for medical intervention when there are underlying mental issues that have not been addressed, well, I think that is a valid point to be made. Your who cares statement reflects a certain amount of arrogance. I have educational credentials few have (including likely you). I could easily say who cares what you say. But it doesn't advance any understanding. What do you think of Abigail Shrier's book? I suspect it might invoke an emotional response from you. A logical one would be desirable, however.

Absurd to think a trans female needs to play sports against biological girls in order to not kill themselves.

Your handicap just keeps on showing. Except to you.

An argument that NOBODY made. It is amazing how obtuse you folks are when you have to distort what someone says and then argue against your distortion. WEAK.

"In the interview with Smerconish, Hogshead-Makar expressed concern that Penn swimmers with misgivings about Thomas competing in women’s events were not allowed to share those thoughts publicly.
“Whenever the swimmers have expressed any discomfort or any second thoughts or want to talk about it with leaders at Penn or with their coaches, they are shut down right away. There’s no room for them to say anything. They have been told that if they speak out, they will never get a job again, that corporate America will Google their name and say, ‘Transphobe, we don’t want that.’ They’ve been told that they can’t do anything,” Hogshead-Makar said."

swimmingworldmagazine.com

Penn Swimmers Cannot Express Opinions on Lia Thomas; Athletes Shut Down By School

@David_Rieder

Nancy Hogshead-Makar is concerned about Penn swimmers criticizing Lia Thomas and her NCAA participation and being labeled as "transphobic."

Link:www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/news/pen...

So does Megan support the thugs at Penn who tell the swimmers to shut up or lose their scholarships?

I have not read Shrier's book, and after reading this review on Psychology Today, I am not sure if it is worth reading.

psychologytoday.com

New Book “Irreversible Damage” Is Full of Misinformation

@psychtoday

A new book has the potential to hurt transgender youth.

Link:www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/politi...

I wonder why you mentioned a book by an opinion journalist, as opposed to a scholarly work such as Lisa Littman's article. Does Shrier's book cover more than Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria identified in Littman's article? Is there any scientific insight in Shrier's book that I cannot find in Littman's work?

Speaking of which, what do you think of this study?

https://www.jpeds.com/article/S0022-3476(21)01085-4/fulltext

Regarding people who regret medical transitions, I have a few questions.

-- Are they more prevalent among male-to-female or female-to-male transitions? Or are they roughly the same frequency?

-- At what age do they first experience gender dysphoria?

-- When did they start social transitioning? How many years between the first realization of gender dysphoria and the start of social transitioning.

-- When did they start medical transitioning? How many years between the first realization of gender dysphoria and the start of medical transitioning? How many years of the start of social transitioning and the start of medical transitioning?

-- What kind of counseling and psychological evaluations did they receive before the social transitioning, and how often did they receive those evaluations? The same about before the medical transitioning.

-- Did they start social transitioning in total isolation from other youths with gender dysphoria? Or did they have any "peer group" that went through the same process?

-- Did they have any mental health issues unrelated their gender dysphoria prior to expressing their dysphoria? How about mental health issues related to their gender dysphoria? (*)

Are any of the variables above related to the likelihood that a person regrets medical transitioning? Or are they totally unrelated?

Have they got their brains scanned? Is there any relationship between the persistence of gender dysphoria and the brain structure?

https://www.ese-hormones.org/media/1506/transgender-brains-are-more-like-their-desired-gender-from-an-early-age.pdf

* If someone had mental health problem unrelated to gender dysphoria, then it's not any surprised that transitioning does not solve that problem. If the mental health problem is related to gender dysphoria, that could be a different matter. (It could solve part of the problem, to the extent it is related to the gender dysphoria.)

I just wrote a detailed response with an explanation of what I meant by wokeness, which BTW, is based a pretty good understanding of the intellectual roots of this phenomenon, and this is what you come back at me with? Not to mention your conflation of religious belief with belief in Santa Claus? If you don't know the difference between the two, I'll explain: Human beings tell their children myths about Santa Claus to make Christmas a magical experience. Therefore we know that Santa Claus isn't real. Nobody knows the nature of existence and the meaning of life (the issues that are at the core of religion).

You're also lugging out the old, "Do better!" What you fail to realize is that critics of postmodern/critical theory views of gender are not anti-trans rights. We are against a worldview that rejects science and shared reality in favor of a faith-like system that substitutes pedantic nonsense for sound reasoning and considered judgement.

My guess is that you do not truly grasp how radical and anti-reality the underpinnings of the dominant strand of trans activism is today. I've literally had people tell me that transwomen cannot possibly have male advantage because they're women and/or female. People making such assertions are either playing language games for political reasons or so hopped up on dogma that they cannot think properly.

The fact that many women do not want to compromise safety and fairness to accommodate a subset of biological males does not make them hateful or akin to proponents of slavery. People always cart out the racism charge, and it's nonsense. Ask yourself who is being called a heretic today. The Ivy-educated upperclass professional smugly explaining, "Trans women are women. FULL STOP," and waging a Twitter campaign to ruin the lives of dissenters, or the everyday people who understand how babies are made?

Last but not least, I absolutely support the contention that science can coexist with support for transgender rights; however, I would caution everybody to consider whether "transgender" (the West's current way of making sense of a host of bodily dissatisfactions) is leading to the most effective and ethical social policies. RunRagged has posted repeatedly on these threads explaining the unfair advantages of allowing males at any age in female sports categories.

In addition to the sports stuff, most people would be shocked at just how flimsy the research base is on the safety of medical gender "affirmation" and its effectiveness for treating gender dysphoria. The puberty blocker/cross-sex hormones protocol for adolescents, known as the Dutch Protocol, is based on a single study with carefully screened participants. Cross-sex hormones at any age greatly increase the risk of cardiovascular accidents and cancer. Aesthetic surgeries for trans-identified people have a high complication rate.

Life as a woman would be much easier right now if I thought the only threats to our rights and safety were religious conservatives. In fact, we have it coming from all sides: The Equality Act effectivly making it impossible to argue for sex-based rights, proposed changes to Title IX that do the same, and now the Supreme Court overturning Roe vs. Wade (the original Roe decision might be bad legal reasoning, but I definitely support a federal guarantee of abortion access). Formal and secular religious zealots seem hellbent on imposing their will on everybody else, particularly women. It's misogyny, and it's obscene.

Didn’t realize we had so many fans of womens volleyball and soccer around here..

I’m not sure what that has to do with anything? You think it makes more sense to say “if I don’t like it, who cares if it’s fair?”

Just came across this article on cnn:

cnn.com

Opinion: The kids I coach are the living rejection of anti-LGBTQ hate. They shouldn't have to be

Opinion by Jennifer Harvey

Jennifer Harvey writes how her child coming out as non-binary not only expanded their world in a major way and granted them a grounded sense of self, but motivated Harvey to work toward creating a space for trans and non-bina...

Link:www.cnn.com/2022/06/20/opinions/lgbtq-...

It’s a long diatribe written about how their child who identifies as a they (but has testicles) was discriminated against (likely because they weren’t allowed to play on the girl’s team). But at the end, they were just fine because they were allowed to participate in the coed league. That league has always been open to everybody, because there is an expectation among the participants and parents that those are the rules. What is not okay is for an individual with testicles who has undergone puberty intact to participate in a competitive female only league.

This is not complicated (and I am a liberal for the most part)

It is complete common sense - women who used to be men have an advantage over biological women. Sport is meant to be fair - it doesn't matter if 1 or 200 have an advantage.

And the trans kid who takes a spot on the team from little Suzy - are we to assume Suzy is committing suicide because she can no longer play sports

The evidence that there is an advantage is beyond a shadow of doubt - how many of us watched semenya or niyonsaba or the swimmer from the ncaa or the weightlifter in the olympics. It isn't rocket science, 'they' developed in the presence of testerone which confers advantages throughout your life in terms of muscle mass

Common sense - often missing from the left

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I'd start watching the NWSL if men were playing.

Ricci Tres, 29, a Los Angeles-based skateboarder and father of three who now identifies as a trans woman would beg to differ. Tres recently made headlines for beating out a 13 year-old girl to take first place in NYC skateboarding contest meant for female skaters.

Formerly known as Richard Batres, Tres was a 2nd Class Petty Officer and machinist in the US Navy and married to the woman who bore the couple's three children before deciding two years ago to start taking hormones "to become a woman" after "feeling 'guilty' about crossdressing" for years.

Excerpts from today's Daily Mail:

Last weekend, Tres took first prize at The Boardr competition in New York City, an open competition in which kids and adults can compete against each other. Shiloh Catori, 13, won the women's competition last year followed by 16-year-old Christine Cottam and 10-year-old Juri Ikura.

This year, Shiloh was second to Tres. Many say it's unfair that Tres, who lived 27 years as a man before coming out as trans, should be able to compete against the young girls and that it goes 'beyond the pale'.

But [Tres] sees no issue with it, telling DailyMail.com the sport is not as physically demanding as others like swimming or running, and that age and gender 'don't count'.

'I’m not going to go and be easy on them because they’re kids,' [Tres] said in an interview on Tuesday.

Tres served four years in the Navy as an aviation machinist, working aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln.

[Tres] spoke fondly of [the the time the skater spent] in the military, describing it as 'awesome'...

While in the Navy, [Tres] married now ex-wife Hannah. The pair have three children; Greyson, seven, Jonah, five, and Penelope, two.

[Tres] hopes to one day be allowed to compete [in women's skateboarding] in the Olympics, and wants to continue winning smaller, local competitions to boost her world ranking and be able to qualify.

Currently, The Boardr ranks [Tres] as 839th in the world [amongst women and girls]. Shiloh, the 13-year-old [Tres] beat over the weekend, is 133rd.

'I’m just skateboarding to be happy. I just want to be happy,' [Tres] said.

dailymail.co.uk

EXCLUSIVE: Trans skateboarder defends competing against young girls

https://www.facebook.com/DailyMail

Ricci Tres, 29, spoke to DailyMail.com exclusively about why she feels no guilt or shame over competing against young girls in skateboarding competitions despite living as a man for 27 years.

Link:www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10962...

Who the hell cares? The guy sounds like a complete douche bag (assuming the story is true as it sounds like something from the Onion) but who really cares? Nobody cares about this skateboarding nonsense. Obviously.

Lots of women and girls care, and we happen to make up a significant proportion of the population. Many guys care too.

Males like this particular dirt bag have been using gender identity claims to horn in on and dominate in girls and women's sports of all kinds at all levels for years now - and it's having a demoralizing impact on many of us. Women who stand up for female sports in public get a barrage of death and rape threats and tons of abusive messages from male trans activists saying STFU and "suck girl dxck" - some with photos of said body part.

A lot of the coverage of the stunning and brave blokes intruding upon female sports sound like Onion parodies. But they're not. Look at the fawning coverage given to Lia Thomas by Sports Illustrated and many TV shows, for example. NBC News even likened Thomas to Jackie Robinson - and not as a joke, either.

Just because you personally don't care doesn't mean nobody does.

Pretty funny from someone who sued US Soccer to try to get a piece of the mens teams revenue while the Women's team got garbage dumped by a U15 squad

Guess we should dress the U18 boys team for the next women's world cup then

Wow, the complete narcissism of this person is astounding. Seems to be a recurring theme in each of these cases.