Just call it non-binary and let's get it done next year. Intersex, M->F, F->M, etc. I don't blame any healthy individual for not wanting to lower their T levels with potential unknown adverse effects on whatever equilibrium their natural body has achieved. Let them compete in a new category. There only needs to be a dozen individuals or so at the highest levels to fill the lanes, and until such time that there is more representation maybe they can have the opportunity to compete at multiple events, or perhaps a rotating schedule. Once people got used to the idea they would start rooting for personalities just like usual in all of the other events.
If Felix had run her PR she would've won by over half a second. Seyni still couldn't compete with the best women in the world. It looked ridiculous because it was a slow race.
It's not the levels of testosterone that makes the difference. Young boys who are very fast don't have lots of testosterone. It's a genetic trait.
The sport needs an intersex category.
Just call it non-binary and let's get it done next year. Intersex, M->F, F->M, etc. I don't blame any healthy individual for not wanting to lower their T levels with potential unknown adverse effects on whatever equilibrium their natural body has achieved. Let them compete in a new category. There only needs to be a dozen individuals or so at the highest levels to fill the lanes, and until such time that there is more representation maybe they can have the opportunity to compete at multiple events, or perhaps a rotating schedule. Once people got used to the idea they would start rooting for personalities just like usual in all of the other events.
When this was done at Boston, the same people complaining about intersex and trans people, opposed having an intersex and trans category or qualifying standard.
Jock Semple would be proud11/20/2021 3:59pm EST2 years ago
The United Airlines New York City Half Marathon now has standards for men, women, and non-binary. Interestingly, the non-binary are EXACTLY the same as the women's standards. Is this the next step for Boston? "Non-binary"...
You would need equal prize money and that was unacceptable to people who deny the existence of intersex and trans people and the validity of their existence.
It's mainly the hormones plus biological differences like size. What factor do you think is bigger than testosterone? Young boys and girls around 10 and 11 often don't have much of a difference between them in terms of sport. You can see it easily visually in things like rounders in PE. When male puberty kicks in the difference is vast. Testosterone makes a massive difference to women as well in terms of performance. Normal levels are about
women - 15-70 (ng/dl)
men - 265-923
These are rough figures but I just put them in to emphasise the difference, which is vast.
7–10 years old male - 1.80 to 5.68 female - 2.69 to 10.29
13–17 years old male - 208.08 to 496.58 female - 16.72 to 31.55
Of course there are other factors, but in adult humans, the ban (for those distances) refers to testosterone and reducing levels of testosterone.
I think you've made an error in claiming that female children ages 7-10 have significantly higher testosterone than males of the same age.
My understanding is that the Total Testosterone range for both sexes age 1-9 years is similar. After that, boys and girls diverge, with the boys having significantly higher T. I have never seen any material saying that girls age 7-10 normally have markedly higher T than boys of the same age.
The Mayo Clinic reference range for both boys and girls age 1-9 years is <7-20 ng/dL. After that the ranges are as follows:
1. I didn't claim that. I think you've actually made an error in claiming that I said that, when I didn't - or rather you've extrapolated something from the figures I provided that I didn't state. The figures I provided are a range therefore don't show that the mean or median is higher or lower in either case. The mean for males could be higher than for females.
2. I specifically said rough figures to emphasise a point
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These are figures from one study, with many limitations. Just like a lot of studies. My point was that there are vastly higher testosterone levels in adolescent men than women. The same for adult men and women.
Actually in this study as well, it shows higher levels for girls age 6 than for boys.