Serious question. Not trolling. How do you survive on 21k a year? Like how is that even possible in a country where the average rent just went to 1500?
- Further career advancement isn't worth the additional stress, responsibility, and working hours
This says everything.
You don’t want to work hard to achieve anything. Of course you have nothing to look forward to.
I assume you could have been a faster runner, but didn’t care to train hard.
I made $95K last year.
There's a balance in everything. What's the point of putting in longer hours to get more money if you're stressed out and don't have the time to enjoy the cash? What's the point of running 110+MPW if you're taken down by injuries and inadequate recovery time?
- Technology is slowing down, 1972 to 2022 had a lot less change than 1900 to 1950.
Wtf? Anyone with any sense would say that technology advances have accelerated since the Renaissance.
Letsrun.com alone is enough to put the last 50 years ahead of any other time period.
1900 had no heavier-than-air aircraft, and 1950 had supersonic flight. And that's just one example out of many.
Life in 1972 wasn't that much different than today. We had cars, color TV, microwave ovens, nukes, spaceflight, rubberized tracks, 1200' tall skyscrapers, and even basic video games like Pong. It's not even close to the difference between 1900 and 1950.
OP, sounds like you need to go for a long hike. I'm not talking a day or two. Do a thru hike of some trail. Maybe 150-200 miles. Take 10-14 days doing it.
Gathering the needed gear is part of the fun, and figuring out the logistics. The hike is fun too, but can also be difficult. It will change your perspective on every day life, though, and help appreciate the modern luxuries in a different way.
After that, find another trail to make a goal out of.
Maybe give cycling try if you haven't. you'll be able to set all new PRs, and I find you can do it hard more often without needing to recover. It will be a new challenge and a new learning curve. You'll probably be pretty good with a running background.
I'd also suggest finding ways to live for others. It's tough no longer setting PRs, etc. and focusing on personal goals. As we age, it is important to set goals that help others. Whether your own children, community members, whomever, helping others can be very rewarding. You likely have knowledge and skills that could be of great use to someone younger who is struggling. Build those types of relationships.
I'm 34 and have been depressed since I was 16. I don't know why, I just became struck down with it.
Took mirtazipine the other night and today I could barely get out of bed, just stumbling from the bed to the bathroom. I am tired and fatigued at the time and running makes no difference, whether it is high or low mileage. I raced the other day in a daze just feeling completely fatigued in the first mile.
As for careers and relationships, the jobs market is an absolute joke at least here in the UK. Relationships, how do you meet someone if you have no social circle and no one socialises anymore anyway? Everyones on their smartphone.
At 35, i was scared i would be fatter, slower and insignificant.
At age 41, after a difference in attitude and training, I set a few PRs
After a back spasm incident in the 2011 San Diego Rock n roll marathon (a DNF)..i thought i was done..in 2017, i beat my 2009 time by 29 minutes.
Finances? I've never made more than 21k in a year.
Personal? I have one best friend...we've been friends 36 years....I'm 48. Count on your real friends
As for extreme...I've always been extra...it gets you noticed
Just be you. Things may fly away but you know you.
And push your own envelope.
You might surprise yourself.
When I was 10, i wanted to be part of a choir and my mom said i couldn't sing.
I stopped trying
28 years later, while working with a professor, we did raps and songs about grammar lessons..
For six years and 3 conferences.
Keep trying. Keep being.
I'm not glamorous but I'm here.
Serious question. Not trolling. How do you survive on 21k a year? Like how is that even possible in a country where the average rent just went to 1500?
He either lives in an ultra-low cost of living area or inherited a ton of money. You can survive on 21K a year in most places if your house is paid off, but it's tough to buy a house in the first place (even in the 90s when prices were much cheaper) on a 21K/year salary.
- Hard workouts take a longer time to recover from
- Injuries tend to happen more frequently and take longer to heal
Finances/career:
- Retirement is a long way off
- Inflation is rising faster than wages
- Further career advancement isn't worth the additional stress, responsibility, and working hours
Personal:
- Friends and most other people in the same age-range are too busy with their families and don't have time to hang out
- Grandparents have all died, parents are in their 70s and might not have much time left
Politics/world affairs:
- Both the left and the right are getting too extreme
- The easily extractable fossil fuels have run out. If we can't find more, the lack of dense, reliable energy will throw us back into a 19th century standard of living. If we do find more, the effects of climate change will throw us back into a 19th century standard of living.
Tech advances:
- Social media is a net negative
- Cool futuristic adventures like space tourism are only available to the ultra-rich
- Technology is slowing down, 1972 to 2022 had a lot less change than 1900 to 1950.
Hey man, I feel the same way much of the time. My advice is try to settle down and get married. It gives you more purpose. I'm 34 - I know I'll never PR again in anything other than perhaps a marathon, but that's okay...the age group stuff is fun.
I would also suggest joining a running group or a young adult group at a church (both is better).
Is there a business you want to start in your spare time? I'm always hustling something on the side. 9-5 is boring...entrepreneurial hustle is exciting as hell
I've felt how you describe on and off since my teenage years. I think it's a fairly common way to feel. Embrace that you will never know if there's any meaning to life and find something that gives you a sense of purpose.
- Hard workouts take a longer time to recover from
- Injuries tend to happen more frequently and take longer to heal
Finances/career:
- Retirement is a long way off
- Inflation is rising faster than wages
- Further career advancement isn't worth the additional stress, responsibility, and working hours
Personal:
- Friends and most other people in the same age-range are too busy with their families and don't have time to hang out
- Grandparents have all died, parents are in their 70s and might not have much time left
Politics/world affairs:
- Both the left and the right are getting too extreme
- The easily extractable fossil fuels have run out. If we can't find more, the lack of dense, reliable energy will throw us back into a 19th century standard of living. If we do find more, the effects of climate change will throw us back into a 19th century standard of living.
Tech advances:
- Social media is a net negative
- Cool futuristic adventures like space tourism are only available to the ultra-rich
- Technology is slowing down, 1972 to 2022 had a lot less change than 1900 to 1950.
Honest question: what responsibilities do you have in your life right now?
You say you have nothing to look forward to and then cite a bunch of externalities. So, I am genuinely curious what YOU are doing in your life right now? Not, what your life is doing to you.
And I ask this as a 33 year old who struggled with suicidal ideation and depression in my late teens into early 20’s. Mid-30’s, busy as ever with work, married, dogs to tend to, trying to have kids, mortgage to pay and I’m living a more fulfilling life than I could have imagined just a few short years ago when I was nihilistically focused on all that was wrong in the world around me.
From the somewhat grievances you laid out, it sounds to me like may be lacking in meaningful relationships. I don’t say that to criticize; just as an observation. And I say that because I’m in your age range, have responsibilities that vie for my time, have friends with responsibilities that vie for their time, and cannot tell you the last time one of us used the phrase “hang out”. Perhaps I’m reading into it too much, but I have for sure “spent time” with my friends and their families as well as my family recently (heck, this last weekend was a crazy, whirlwind of a trip to go spend the weekend with some family and friends).
When you are married, have kids, etc every minute counts and there really are not spare moments of the day left lying around to accumulate and spend just hanging out like in our teens or 20’s. Hence, why your choice of words seemed a cue to lacking something in those areas.
And - again - that is not a criticism if you are. I just know that I was very frustrated and angry with married friends and family who had no time for me when I was younger and I recognize now that a big difference was they had shouldered immense responsibilities (ie getting married, having kids, certain careers like teaching, doctor, lawyer, etc that are fulfilling but demanding) that I had not. I was stuck in a rut somewhat of my own doing for not setting out into the world to find things I could take on that would require my time and attention too, thereby making my time and attention all the more a valuable thing to me, and thereby making my time inherently of more apparent value to myself than it was before.
Not married (been in a relationship 5 years), no kids. Healthy, financially middle class. It's depressing. Parents getting to the age where you realize mortality exists. Your own mortality starts to surface as you get little hints here and there that you aren't peak self anymore. You realize any surprises or life choices are already mostly played out. Chances that you could have taken at 20 just don't present themselves the same when you're 38. You've worked long enough to hate it, but the end is nowhere in sight.
And before anyone says some philosophical BS like "you own your destiny" or "it's all in your attitude" it's not. If everyone had an epiphany and quit their job to sail the globe, everything would fall apart overnight. These are facts of life that are ingrained in biology, chemistry, and the very physics of the universe.
Wtf? Anyone with any sense would say that technology advances have accelerated since the Renaissance.
Letsrun.com alone is enough to put the last 50 years ahead of any other time period.
1900 had no heavier-than-air aircraft, and 1950 had supersonic flight. And that's just one example out of many.
Life in 1972 wasn't that much different than today. We had cars, color TV, microwave ovens, nukes, spaceflight, rubberized tracks, 1200' tall skyscrapers, and even basic video games like Pong. It's not even close to the difference between 1900 and 1950.
I mean, it's certainly true that innovation in certain areas has slowed, but this is really the kind of thing that makes you feel like you have nothing to look forward to? "I'm generally an optimist, but the diminishing technological improvements in commercial air travel have really got me feeling like I just don't know what I'm doing with my life."
Are you just looking for things to be mopey about?
Read a book called "The Middle Passage" by James Hollis. It will do a lot to normalize these feelings and help you process them.
Take up a new hobby. Once my running was on the decline, I took up climbing. I set new personal bests all the time, and my body is in much better shape overall. I still run, but just for fitness. It's so nice not having the "old me" to compete against.