Yeah, they lost me at "Super Doper says..."
Yeah, they lost me at "Super Doper says..."
In training, sprinters rarely go hard more than 60-70 meters, very rarely 80 meters, and nearly never 100 meters. I can count on one hand how many times, in training, a top flight sprinter went 100 full gas out of the blocks in training.
But that's just me.
I just hate to see something as silly as pot ruin this talented girls career. So she can get sloppy drunk but lay off weed......that maked no sense of any kind. And no pot won't help her sprinting. The whole thing is ridiculous.
A 10.3 hand timed is what Jesse Owens was running but, on dirt.
I think that's what he was trying to say. He started with some weird "we have stop watches and can do calculations on what you could run in a race" before saying he got her at 10.5 and 10.3 in practice. Maybe he meant to say that what she's doing in workouts indicates she can run 10.3. Like maybe she's crushing some fast Flys or she's gotten a lot faster over a 30-50 out of blocks.
Otherwise, he is probably talking about 100's with a rolling start? In which case I've heard anywhere from .5 to 1 second conversion between a flying 100 and racing a 100, and 10.8 is not world record speed.
In my youth, I was about .2 off consistently.
In my late 40's now, it's usually .4-.6, my reaction times aren't what they used to be.
Also Gaitlin is lying to create a buzz. This has nothing to do with hand times or flying starts.
Uh-huh.
I don't disagree with you. I was just speaking to the trends I see in the actual data that I've collected over the years. I had several kids timed at 11.1-11.3 in our Time Trials that all threw down 11.6-11.9 in our first few actual FAT timed races this year alone. It happens, pretty consistently year after year. Perhaps it's our process, how we start them where the timers (i.e. coaches) are standing, but I can look at our TT results and give you a pretty accurate estimate.
Maybe the event that's being reference here was handled, or run, similarly? I dunno. But, even if they're timing 10.3 and they've set things up in the best, most accurate way possible, I personally have an even more difficult time believing SR is in 10.4-10.6 shape.
That's just me though. I'd love to be proven wrong, but, at this moment in time, if a Player Prop appeared on FanDuel with an over/under at 10.8 for SR's next race, I'm betting my house on the over.
A few things at play here. First, good to hear SR is training well. Although the source can't be trusted too much for obvious reasons, there's no reason for him to lie. Second, SR is clearly a talented sprinter and her credentials prove as much. Yes, she made a horrendous mistake last summer which cost her in more ways than one (money, reputation, etc...). Finally, what really damaged her reputation was her brazen attitude and cockiness toward the sport and her competitors, no matter how fast she runs and wins she needs to clean up her act. That being said, there's a lot of negative and unnecessary "bashing" being posted that is not cool and somewhat vindictive without cause. She deservedly took a beating on these boards last summer, and rightfully so but that was a year ago and this is a new season. If SR doesn't show up and run well this summer, nothing short of a WC podium placing performance, she will again add to her "All Talk, No Walk" reputation thus the Let's Run bash-fest will be in full effect.
I don't know why everyone is debating the timing. Gatlin trained and competed for decades, he knows exactly how to assess performance. If you want to believe that he's BSing, then fine, but all the jibber jabber about hand timing is ridiculous.
A coach bragging about world records set in practice shouldn't produce skepticism? It's not like he stated that her starts are great or that her flying 30s or 50s are faster than ever and that she's holding her form in practice runs or other things, he stated that she's running 10.5 and 10.3 in practice. I would love to see her run a 10.3 but how can you not be skeptical?
She, or for that matter any woman today, can’t possibly be running 10.3 in competition, so we just have no idea what the number they are measuring means.
With bovine assistance, folks are even running 8.36 equivalent on slush tracks.
Sounds like she’s transitioning… towards being unbelievably fast.
Agreed. If she's not mentally up to traveling or going far from the home base, there're so many college meets etc. that she can show up and drop a time in. Maybe there's an anxiety/pressure thing going on here. Or she wants it to be a huge spectacle when she makes her big return etc. Those are my theories at least.
this RULES. direct link to the tweet
Gowda is old news baby, sub-9 Shetty is the new “It” buffalo boy.
I can see Marcel considering this as I type ^
I was gonna say, Gatlin probably has more than an inkling of how hand-timed relates to FAT and various other methods of assessing performance
Not long before he got popped in 2007, Gatlin was featured in a Sports Illustrated article. If memory serves me much at all, I think oflne of the key focuses of the article was Gatlin chasing Powell in the WR setting department as, up to that point, he hadn't matched Powell's times even though he was the reigning Olympic and World champ.
Anyway, one big takeaway I had from that article was his, or his "camp's", boasting of how Gatlin was running 20 flat (or faster) in his 200s in practice. There was no context of if they were flying, hand times, or anything like that; remember it was essentially a Sports Illustrated puff piece. At the time I found it ludicrous, which I'm sure it was, and upon hearing this 10.3 bologna it proves to me that Gatlin doesn't really have a lot of context and and understanding of nuance when it comes to sprint timing. Which is stunning considering this stuff has essentially been his life work.
You can't take anything he says on this subject at face value. His talk about 40 yard dashes back when he was banned and supposedly trying football is only further proof of his cluelessness.
Sprinters of his class tend to overly inflate timing results and expectations, anyway. Just look at Donovan Bailey and how he STILL talks ridiculously on the subject (particularly in relation to himself). But I feel like Gatlin has a unique lack of understanding, both for himself AND for how to convey to an audience, on the matter.
No, she isn't running 10.3s, hand or otherwise.