Is great oak still good???

Doug Soles knows how to make his teams become the best in the state.
But…..5 of the top 7 are seniors. are they gonna reload next year? Great Oak was able to do that pretty well under Soles in 2016.
The prospects of that aren’t looking too shabby (but American Fork will be #1 in 2023 IMO):
Time trial times Converted from 2.5 mile to 5K:
15:43 - 12
16:05 - 12
16:36 - 12
16:46 - 12
16:53 - 11
16:59 - 12
17:01 - 10
17:03 - 11
17:06 - 11
17:06 - 11
So next year they bring back 5 guys who already ran a 2.5 mile times that convert to a sub-17:07 5K.

Will a team full of Dickrans turn into a team full of Lexs?

Well, no, but they can still turn into a team that wins NXN in 2025. But it’s gonna be by a smaller margin though.

And I agree with what The Average Panther said. In 2024 NP will be ok at the county level at the most unless they recruit more studs. Or maybe someone will transfer in if he’s not happy what school he runs for because of maybe some bad results

Is it just me, or is great oak starting to get worse too?
They got 7th at nationals last year.
But here, they finished 5th without Newbury Park, Jesuit LA and Jesuit OR in this race.
This means they are no higher than #8 in the nation now.
Their odds of their girls team’s going to NXN are low and they returned everyone.
Maybe it’s because of the departure of soles?
Maybe The reason why they got 7th place at nationals was more because of the leadership of the juniors and seniors (The smith and Cortes brothers) rather than the new coach?

Carmel, CBA, Union Catholic, Cherokee trail and valor Christian were not in this race either.

With Arcadia’s coach fired and their team being mediocre now, California is starting to get weaker it seems like

This year could very well be the last year that Newbury Park wins a national championship.
At Woodbridge , many schools had 2 freshmen better than NP’s top freshman.
so there is no point of recruiting at NPHS

Based on the Bob Firman invite, the answer can be found in this video

Well, now that Brosnan is gone, at some it eventually will be

His Marmothe League #1 time this year was 19 seconds faster than the time from that exact same meet a year ago. And this time was in the 17s. This was also his only meet of the season other than Cool Breeze

Updates

Answer to the thread title:

girls team - nope

boys team: good, but not as good as last year, and it will be hard for them to make NXN

How well the Great Oak sophomores improved from last year with the new coach
16:16 to 15:27
16:16 to 15:34
17:32 to 15:59
19:05 to 16:34
A new guy ran a 16:03

Juniors:
15:19 to 14:31
15:34 to 15:09
15:24 to 15:11
15:44 to 15:28

Seniors
15:06 to 14:33
15:09 to 14:39
15:44 to 14:55
15:29 to 14:59
15:27 in 2020 (did not run in 2021) to 15:07
15:31 to 15:15
15:49 to 15:18

This didn’t age well at state.

But they still have a chance at a top 3 this year at NXR

this aged well

Man, did they peak when it mattered

So this is where they ended up based on the NXN performance

Great Oak boys got 7th at nationals last year. This year they got sixth

G Rodriguez (11) 4:14.31
Elkins (12) 4:15.42
Brown (10) 4:15.69
Keeney (11) 4:16.77
R Cortes (12) 4:17.36
M Cortes (12) 4:18.41
Myers (12) 4:18.84
M Rodriguez (11) 4:23.95

Seems very solid to me. 4 of these guys are back next year too

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14 sub-10 runners. 7 are back next year

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After coaching change, Great Oak girls team moved down a lot, but their boys team is still really good. Wow

Time trial results