Rooming five guys to a single bedroom and living on PB&J is different than the lifestyle these guys present on social media. I think that is what differs from the "glory days" of old.
You’re asking the right question. I get so annoyed with (usually Ivy and baby Ivy) post collegiate dudes who act like it’s so hard to train while working a white collar (usually finance in the northeast) job. This isn’t tennis or baseball, you can only run and cross train so many hours a day.Working at a desk even up to 60 hours a week is no impediment to elite training. At least not to the type of person that’s gonna do anything meaningful at the next level. You have a lunch break. Your commute could be a run. Its no different than taking classes and training in college. It’s the cocaine and booze and money and Wall Street bro life you choose over your daily runs. Nothing more.
You realize you are comparing Tinman elite to literal sporting legends like MJ or Tiger who create billions & billions in revenue right and were featured on national tv on a weekly basis?
Selling a thousand T shirts to high school boys doesn't float your lifestyle in Boulder.
Adidas isn't selling a ton of extra gear because of them dude, get over you fantasy.
I don't know Wejo. Flag 20 years ago vs Boulder nowadays is a big difference in housing and rent prices, no? Boulder is expensive!
Plus, there is a difference between 5 guys living in a "1 Bedroom" vs 5 guys living in a 5 bedroom full on house in a place like Boulder...esp if you have extra rooms for office space and inventory etc.
I'd say they do really well with merch sales and that is a big fundraiser for the team.
But trustfund athletes (be they track runners, road marathoners or ultra-trail runners or triathletes) are a dime a dozen in Boulder these days. So it doesn't surprise me when some people say they are "pro sponsored athletes" yet they don't have to work in a shoe store or have an office job etc. Social media has changed the name of the game and people can say they are "influences", but unless you're pulling big numbers it's hard to make an income just from that that is going to support a lifestyle (even without kids) in a place like Boulder. Big prize money is hard to get (unless your podium in a marathon major), so usually a sponsored athlete would have to rely mainly on their salary. When I ran at Hansons there was a reason a lot of us worked 30 hours a week at the running store (and that was while getting rent paid for!).
A lot of times people throw around the term “trust fund” when I think what they really mean (the people who say it and throw around the term loosely) is some parents provided zero support while others’ parents provided (some) financial support to an n’th degree. I can’t tell you how many boomers I’ve talked to who in the 1970s told me when they were young they too got some support (eg $5k 30-40 years ago) for a downpayment on a first home. So yes today there’s a fair amount as far as generational wealth being passed on I suppose, but it’s not like that’s a “trust fund.” The myth of the self-made man (or woman)
I don't know Wejo. Flag 20 years ago vs Boulder nowadays is a big difference in housing and rent prices, no? Boulder is expensive!
Plus, there is a difference between 5 guys living in a "1 Bedroom" vs 5 guys living in a 5 bedroom full on house in a place like Boulder...esp if you have extra rooms for office space and inventory etc.
I'd say they do really well with merch sales and that is a big fundraiser for the team.
But trustfund athletes (be they track runners, road marathoners or ultra-trail runners or triathletes) are a dime a dozen in Boulder these days. So it doesn't surprise me when some people say they are "pro sponsored athletes" yet they don't have to work in a shoe store or have an office job etc. Social media has changed the name of the game and people can say they are "influences", but unless you're pulling big numbers it's hard to make an income just from that that is going to support a lifestyle (even without kids) in a place like Boulder. Big prize money is hard to get (unless your podium in a marathon major), so usually a sponsored athlete would have to rely mainly on their salary. When I ran at Hansons there was a reason a lot of us worked 30 hours a week at the running store (and that was while getting rent paid for!).
A lot of times people throw around the term “trust fund” when I think what they really mean (the people who say it and throw around the term loosely) is some parents provided zero support while others’ parents provided (some) financial support to an n’th degree. I can’t tell you how many boomers I’ve talked to who in the 1970s told me when they were young they too got some support (eg $5k 30-40 years ago) for a downpayment on a first home. So yes today there’s a fair amount as far as generational wealth being passed on I suppose, but it’s not like that’s a “trust fund.” The myth of the self-made man (or woman)
No I actually literally mean a "trust fund" that a young adult (maybe 25 +?) draws money from....from their rich parents who have saved up a lot of money for them to use so they don't really have to work or worry about making ends meet. Dime a dozen in places like Boulder. Like they are drawing $5k a month just to live on as "spending money." There was some ridiculous statistic where it said a very high percentage of my fellow Millennials (and Gen Zers now even) get a pretty high level of financial support from their parents. Whether it is rent or student loan debt the parent is paying for, it shocked me the amount of financial support many of my peers apparently get from their parents. And you're right - nobody is "self made" (some are more than others though). But also like you mentioned, even if one's parents aren't "trust fund rich", if your family is financially well-off (and a lot of "pro" American distance runners are) you are at a huge advantage in pretty much everything in life. Rich people often have a lot of powerful connections as well. It's actually a huge benefit of being part of an Ivy League alumni network for example. I don't know how much this applies to the members of Tinman exactly as they all have different backgrounds - but I'm just saying it's not uncommon for "pro athletes" in Boulder to come from a pretty high level of wealth nowadays. That is how you have time to exercise all day and post on social media and hire a pro video guy to get media for you (and travel etc). It happens in the mountain-ultra-trail world a ton as well.
What does being 12 in 1972 have to do with cost of living then vs now?
Shorter would literally lose the ability to compete if he took even a penny for his running. How did he get by before becoming a household name and starting his business?
Before he realized he was being abused Shorter’s father paid the bills, plus he did get under the table money, and lived pretty cheaply
Not disputing the fact that they come from money, but it's pretty common knowledge among pro circles that Hunter has a 10 year, 200k a year contract (so can afford to train and post all day) and he owns a house in boulder that the some of the guys lived in for a while, I imagine at a discounted rent. The other tinman guys have smaller contracts, but make ok money from that and all the merch they sell they get the blanks for free and are allowed to keep the profits.
Jeezus! "They come from money". Sure! ALL of those Tinmen (and one woman). I guess Drew's dad, Marc, himself had been a trust fund recipient who based his own financial empire upon an inheritance from his truck driver father, while toiling away at his US Government worker bee job -- which entailed commuting all the way to and from Purcellville, VA (hardly cheap). And with Marc's wife, Joan, staying at home for years to raise their brood of NINE kids (four of their own loin-of-loins, including Drew, and five adoptees). That's after the Hunters abandoned their high-paying public high school coaching careers to concentrate on family for a number of years, and before they again cashed in on the lucrative public high school coaching opportunities when Drew was maybe a junior in high school Yeah, like the Hunters were swimming in wealth! Just imagine the food bills and the gas bills and the auto repair bills and the doctor bills and, and, and...
This is another typical lame thread probably started by one of the alpha-wannabes who hate the Tinmen but love anonymity. (The OP, who has a brown nose from kissing the arse of his ugly, hateful Ole Miss fuhrer, is unable to write, capitalize, or punctuate, but , really, the effort is not bad for someone with an 8th grade education.)
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