I doubt that he has any involvement with the middle school kids. Besides it being against the rules these clubs have had some success over the years and they have good coaches. Don't forget that before Newbury Park became a thing other schools in the area have produced some very good runners that came from these clubs. Even now, with all the publicity that NP has been receiving some kids manage to find their way to other schools and do fairly well. For example, Jonah Bazerkanian, a junior at Royal H.S. in Simi Valley, finished 3rd in the state meet at 4:11.89 and has also run 9:04 + in the 3200.