Thank you. It doesn't benefit average americans otherwise we'd have things the developed world has. See the list above for what real americans are facing now...
I'd check your assumptions, jack. the US is far richer than Europe. With the exception of health care, which is spottier in the US. Mostly fine but some clear holes.
The below is five years old but I suspect the gap has only gotten larger as the US economy has grown so much and unemployment is so much lower in the US.
And yes even the average middle class American is wealthier than the average middle class European.
The sustained higher rate of real GDP growth in the United States over a longer period of time has resulted in a substantially higher level of real GDP per capita in the United States than in other major industrial countries. In 2015, real GDP per capita was $56,000 in the United States. On a purchasing power basis, the real GDP per capita in that same year was only $47,000 in Germany, $41,000 in France and the United Kingdom, and just $36,000 in Italy. So the official measures of real GDP clearly point to the cumulative result of higher sustained real growth rates in the United States than in the major industrial countries of Europe and Asia.
You don't even have universal healthcare. 1/3 (112 million) americans struggle to pay for healthcare. You kill 45,000 americans each year because they lack adequate healthcare (Harvard study). Essentially the Vietnam war death toll every year. No other developed country does this to their own people.
america is a third world country with a fake Gucci belt.
But you have made the idiots list for funding ukraine excuses. Well done...
~ by creating peace and prosperity (america has killed 20 – 30 million since WII, mostly civilians) that allows global trade (creating americas current record setting income inequality), travel, open societies (societies are worse off after america interferes with them), cheap goods (thank you China, not american workers), markets for US companies (benefitting rich americans, see income inequality) and therefore jobs (low paying jobs, stagnant Real Wages), preventing a power vacuum and subsequent power struggle (countries we intervene are lawless power vacuums). (from agip)
Story at a glance The data was collected by Gallup and West Health through the Healthcare Affordability Index and Healthcare Value Index, which gathered the opinions of 6,600 U.S. Adults. The Healt…
america has killed 20 – 30 million since WII, mostly civilians
No. It hasn’t. Your source is crap and by their logic Russia has killed 86 million people since WW2. Japan has killed 97 million since WW2. And you personally have killed 14 million.
The Soviet Union and Russia have killed 86 million people since the end of WWII.
Source: Yup. I've got one.
Yeah? In what countries did they kill 86 million after WWII?
To match america, Russia needs to kill 20 - 30 million in other countries... (i.e. global terrorism for profit)
The Soviet Union “lured” the US into the following (that’s literally the rationale listed in your source) and therefore responsible for all fatalities:
america has killed 20 – 30 million since WII, mostly civilians
No. It hasn’t. Your source is crap and by their logic Russia has killed 86 million people since WW2. Japan has killed 97 million since WW2. And you personally have killed 14 million.
When a U.S. President dies, the corporate media fawns over them and looks back at their legacies through a rose-colored lens, all the while the trail of bodies left in their wake are completely ign…
I'd check your assumptions, jack. the US is far richer than Europe. With the exception of health care, which is spottier in the US. Mostly fine but some clear holes.
The below is five years old but I suspect the gap has only gotten larger as the US economy has grown so much and unemployment is so much lower in the US.
And yes even the average middle class American is wealthier than the average middle class European.
The sustained higher rate of real GDP growth in the United States over a longer period of time has resulted in a substantially higher level of real GDP per capita in the United States than in other major industrial countries. In 2015, real GDP per capita was $56,000 in the United States. On a purchasing power basis, the real GDP per capita in that same year was only $47,000 in Germany, $41,000 in France and the United Kingdom, and just $36,000 in Italy. So the official measures of real GDP clearly point to the cumulative result of higher sustained real growth rates in the United States than in the major industrial countries of Europe and Asia.
You don't even have universal healthcare. 1/3 (112 million) americans struggle to pay for healthcare. You kill 45,000 americans each year because they lack adequate healthcare (Harvard study). Essentially the Vietnam war death toll every year. No other developed country does this to their own people.
america is a third world country with a fake Gucci belt.
But you have made the idiots list for funding ukraine excuses. Well done...
~ by creating peace and prosperity (america has killed 20 – 30 million since WII, mostly civilians) that allows global trade (creating americas current record setting income inequality), travel, open societies (societies are worse off after america interferes with them), cheap goods (thank you China, not american workers), markets for US companies (benefitting rich americans, see income inequality) and therefore jobs (low paying jobs, stagnant Real Wages), preventing a power vacuum and subsequent power struggle (countries we intervene are lawless power vacuums). (from agip)
note that ceccione won't address the fact that since the US ascended to global leadership after WW2, billions of been lifted out of poverty around the world, combat deaths have fallen steadily and there has been no bigwar, US living standards have risen steadily to levels materially above its peers...
But yes Americans got fat, they hate exercise, they hate healthy food and they listen to right wing anti-vax theories. What can I tell you. We are fat nation that trusts Donald J Trump and Matt Gaetz.
man you have no business telling people they need to be more sophisticated. You're like a 9th grader who read Ayn Rand and is convinced that's all there is.
You go girl.
Tell us, HS history:
How does billions sent to Ukraine help average americans in america?
You really picked the wrong example of America foreign aid to go off on this months long internet crusade. If you wanted to persuade Americans that they get no benefits to providing foreign aid, you could have directed these huge efforts of yours to questioning American foreign aid to Egypt ($1.5 billion/year) or South Africa ($1.1 billion/year) or Venezuela ($160 million/year), for example. I think you may get a small amount of Americans wondering why that aid is necessary, at least relative to other foreign aid.
But to pick Ukraine -- a country being invaded and destroyed, with over a hundred thousand Ukrainians killed and millions becoming refugees -- as the flagship example for your "End All U.S. Foreign Aid!" crusade is just crazy. You couldn't have picked a worse example for your cause. It's like your are situationally blind, tone deaf, spectrumed-up, self-absorbed, and totally inept all rolled into one.
it doesn't. I've never supported Ukraine and hope Republicans actually act fiscally conservative and isolationist for once. Trump kept us out of wars.
Good for you.
Doesn't matter which side does it. Stop funding bs conflicts for-profit. Cut military spending to match other developed countries. Take care of americans first FOR ONCE.
I agree on Trump. He was peace dove compared to Biden, Obama, Bush/Bush. Trump just maintained Yemen, Iran, Syria, Afghanistan but he did not start any new wars.
We need to do better than starting new wars. We need to nix the military budget massively and let americans join the developed world.
man you have no business telling people they need to be more sophisticated. You're like a 9th grader who read Ayn Rand and is convinced that's all there is.
You go girl.
Tell us, HS history:
How does billions sent to Ukraine help average americans in america?
You are basically saying that US foreign aid, or any country's foreign aid for that matter, is a worthless expenditure and/or investment for the provider of that foreign aid. Yeah, maybe in some cheap cynical sense, it's a waste of money. But, unfortunately for you most people are capable of thinking more abstractly than you would like them to. Most people can see benefits to providing aid to others in need that, while not capable of strict quantitative analysis on an ROI spreadsheet, are still present in abundance. You could think of them as qualitative or intangible benefits.
For example, Norwegians have decided that providing $7.3 billion in aid to Ukraine benefits average Norwegians tremendously in a large variety of ways. Average Norwegians won't see more money in their personal bank accounts, but they will all receive enormous intangible benefits from the billions sent to Ukraine. Same things with Americans. Again, most people understand that. You would have to be some dark, obsessed, confused weirdo not to.
No. It hasn’t. Your source is crap and by their logic Russia has killed 86 million people since WW2. Japan has killed 97 million since WW2. And you personally have killed 14 million.
Russia is responsible for between 85 and 87 million deaths during the war between the United States and not the United States, by luring the United States into invading those nations.
HAHA! Some serious irony and lack of self-awareness in that comment. Check the top of this very page. Holy moly, man. Full blown nutter.
Lolly wrote:
~ americans will receive enormous intangible benefits from the billions sent to Ukraine, even if they can’t experience them (from Colin Bombo Harris)
Ah yes, benefits that can't be measured, seen, or experienced
Yes, there are such things as intangible benefits that can't be quantified in $. Life is full of such things. I wasn't aware there were people who are unaware of what an intangible benefit is or who, like you appear to be doing, dispute such a thing exists.
Lolly wrote:
How does billions sent to Ukraine help average americans in america?
You are basically saying that US foreign aid, or any country's foreign aid for that matter, is a worthless expenditure and/or investment for the provider of that foreign aid. Yeah, maybe in some cheap cynical sense, it's a waste of money. But, unfortunately for you most people are capable of thinking more abstractly than you would like them to. Most people can see benefits to providing aid to others in need that, while not capable of strict quantitative analysis on an ROI spreadsheet, are still present in abundance. You could think of them as qualitative or intangible benefits.
For example, Norwegians have decided that providing $7.3 billion in aid to Ukraine benefits average Norwegians tremendously in a large variety of ways. Average Norwegians won't see more money in their personal bank accounts, but they will all receive enormous intangible benefits from the billions sent to Ukraine. Same things with Americans. Again, most people understand that. You would have to be some dark, obsessed, confused weirdo not to.
We don't care. WWII was the last time people cared. After that, with the exception of the Cuban missile crisis, Americans stopped caring or turned against wars.
You're full of carp, again. A year later, 65% of Americans still want to help Ukraine win. We'd rather spend some of our money to see that happen than be richer in a world where we stand by and let Ukraine be destroyed. By a 2 to 1 margin, average Americans support Ukraine.
Nearly one year into the war between Russia and Ukraine, Americans’ support for Ukraine holds steady. A stable 65% of U.S. adults prefer that the United States support Ukraine in reclaiming its territory, even if that results in a prolonged conflict.
As the Russia-Ukraine war continues, most Americans support Ukraine in winning back its lost territory, even if that entails a prolonged conflict. Republicans remain more evenly split in their preferences.
Lolly 2 has said a lot of dumb and implausible things. The least credible of all is his claim to speak for the average American. He hates average Americans, and we hate him back. We want America to succeed, and he wants it to fail.
How does millions sent to earthquake victims in Turkey and Syria help average Americans in America?
It's a question Lolly 2 is afraid to answer. He literally cannot answer the question. Turkey and Syria are thousands of miles away. They're not important markets for us. Average Americans could keep more money if we didn't aid earthquake victims in countries that most Americans never think of. Why not let Turkey's neighbors in Europe and the Middle East deal with it?
There's an answer, but Lolly 2 can't say it. Can't think it. Is afraid to admit an answer even exists.
