Sad day and frustrated by the lack of empathy from fellow Americans. Regardless of your feelings on the specifics of this conflict, war ia h€ll.
Reddit has some fascinating threads up from Ukrainian's documenting events in live-time. Videos of bombings and photos from victims. City is gridlocked right now on highway leading out. Much military movement. Many live streams are up and worth watching.
The lack of empathy comes from a very small pocket of Americans. Most Americans are deeply concerned. Unfortunately, this particular forum gives those who choose to ignore or flat out distort reality a platform to post and spread their nonsense. Trust me, most American's care and wish nothing but the best for those now having to deal with Putin's BS.
There are a couple of Russia v Ukraine threads. They need to be combined.
Anyway...
This reminds me of 1991 and Saddam invading Kuwait. The only difference is the level of military equipment and numbers.
We are NOT going to fight the Russians. NO ONE officially is going to fight the Russians other than the Ukrainians. Any force we or other Europeans line up is just going to be for defensive efforts or to help move civilians out of the way.
Russian has been fighting Ukraine since 2014. They took Crimea. They have been inching into Ukraine since then. Ukraine isn't a part of NATO partially because we and rest of Europe would have been forced to defend Ukraine against the Russians today. This day has been coming since 2014.
The world can cripple the Russian economy with sanctions. We will see what happens.
There are a couple of Russia v Ukraine threads. They need to be combined.
Anyway...
This reminds me of 1991 and Saddam invading Kuwait. The only difference is the level of military equipment and numbers.
We are NOT going to fight the Russians. NO ONE officially is going to fight the Russians other than the Ukrainians. Any force we or other Europeans line up is just going to be for defensive efforts or to help move civilians out of the way.
Russian has been fighting Ukraine since 2014. They took Crimea. They have been inching into Ukraine since then. Ukraine isn't a part of NATO partially because we and rest of Europe would have been forced to defend Ukraine against the Russians today. This day has been coming since 2014.
The world can cripple the Russian economy with sanctions. We will see what happens.
Alan
I really hope all the millions of people who think like you will be punished harshly once Putin will clearly show he won't be stopping in Ukraine.
This level of ignorance is absolutely incredible.
I pray to God the Russian apologists will be the first to suffer the Russian wave.
There are a couple of Russia v Ukraine threads. They need to be combined.
Anyway...
This reminds me of 1991 and Saddam invading Kuwait. The only difference is the level of military equipment and numbers.
We are NOT going to fight the Russians. NO ONE officially is going to fight the Russians other than the Ukrainians. Any force we or other Europeans line up is just going to be for defensive efforts or to help move civilians out of the way.
Russian has been fighting Ukraine since 2014. They took Crimea. They have been inching into Ukraine since then. Ukraine isn't a part of NATO partially because we and rest of Europe would have been forced to defend Ukraine against the Russians today. This day has been coming since 2014.
The world can cripple the Russian economy with sanctions. We will see what happens.
I have found that people that get gleeful and like to cheer on brutal warfare from distant lands behind their keyboards typically have at least two of the following traits:
1. They are young
2. They are ignorant
3. They lack empathy
Imagine waking up to Air raid sirens, having all forms of daily life shut down and knowing your loved ones and friends are in danger of being killed. And the likely outcome is that you are going to be under the rulership of a Brutal, dictator that silences the population and kills his own countryman.
Don't blame me - Putin wouldn't have pulled this stunt with Trump.
Those who voted for the demented old man and his clown-show administration are to blame for the pain we're all going to be feeling for the foreseeable future.
Christ this place is dead in the UK morning when WW3 breaks out and nobody has posted on it yet.
190,000 troops invade Ukraine and you call that WWIII. We've got 2 million Mexican invading our southern border EVERY year encouraged by our President.
Will the Russian troops be working primarily in the Ukrainian agriculture industry?
Remember when Brandon said Putin didn’t want him as President? LOL
It takes a pea brain for a mind to believe that Russia's actions are dictated by who the US elected as president. People in the US have a deranged inflated view of their importance on the world stage. It was a dumb comment by Biden for political gain. Of course we know that the former president would never make dumb comments for political gain.
Remember when Brandon said Putin didn’t want him as President? LOL
It takes a pea brain for a mind to believe that Russia's actions are dictated by who the US elected as president. People in the US have a deranged inflated view of their importance on the world stage. It was a dumb comment by Biden for political gain. Of course we know that the former president would never make dumb comments for political gain.
+1
As I said in another thread, that people are reducing this to a #45 vs. #46 issue is very disturbing. At best, it shows they’re mental midgets and at worst, they’re subtly evil.
It takes a pea brain for a mind to believe that Russia's actions are dictated by who the US elected as president. People in the US have a deranged inflated view of their importance on the world stage. It was a dumb comment by Biden for political gain. Of course we know that the former president would never make dumb comments for political gain.
+1
As I said in another thread, that people are reducing this to a #45 vs. #46 issue is very disturbing. At best, it shows they’re mental midgets and at worst, they’re subtly evil.
LOL! So silly.
It was the mental midget criminal scumbag acting as current POTUS that said “Putin wasn’t going to be messing around in Eastern Europe on his watch,” not us. Cuz you know, “he’s gone toe to toe with Putin.”
On a more serious note- I truly hope the Biden, Pelosi, Kerry and Romney kids didn’t leave anything of importance in Ukraine after their most recent Board meetings.
Yeah or maybe his post was titled “Now he has openly declared - is Putin a far left terrorist?” and read:
“So Putin has announced and started his special military action.
one reason is to suppress neo nazis.
so Putin is Antifa - the darling of the left.
This seems to be a far left terrorist attack.”
Dang arbitrary snowflake mods.
How is this not an act of far left socialist terrorism?
Because Putin is part of a cabal of oligarchs that took control when the Soviet Union collapsed. This is Russia post communism.
A similar thing happened in Yugoslavia when the government there collapsed and you had Bosnian islamists, Serbian irredentists and Croatian nationalists, with the Albanian minority caught up as well. The post Soviet states have taken longer to get here but has been quietly simmering since Putin's intervention in Georgia in 2008
The largest alternative is the Communist Party of Russia and if Putin/United Russia was to be removed, it's almost certain they would be involved in a new government. Which is why the West has been hesitant and totally unserious about domestic opposition to Putin.
Russia invaded Crimea under Obama. Russia did not invade under Trump. Russia is currently invading Ukraine under Biden.
Trump was busy defunding NATO, withholding military aid from Ukraine, praising autocrats, denouncing our generals, declaring he trusted Putin's word over our own military intelligence, and destroying democratic norms in the US. Why would Putin do anything to f up that situation?