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2 years ago 02/14/2022 11:32am EST

After witnessing the barrage of lightning fast times this past weekend by the Bowerman Track Club I have been left with my jaw on the floor wondering how?

But looking back further into the past few years it has been clear that what happened this past weekend was actually par for the course for this elite group. Fisher's 12:53 was no doubt a huge PR, but it probably lines up very closely with his 5th place finish in the 10,000m in Tokyo. The other achievements are also nothing out of the ordinary for this group or these athletes.

With all that said, I think we can conclude:

1. It wasn't primarily the track surface

2. It wasn't primarily the shoe tech

3. It wasn't primarily the talent of the athletes

The consistent dominance of BTC over other American groups is most likely attributed to knowledge. The secret isn't "there is no secret" as Parker wrote all those years ago. BTC has a secret. Whether its related to training, nutrition, pharmaceuticals (legal type), or other reasons. There is clearly a gap in this groups ability to develop and sustain top talent that is unparalleled in the running community.

2 years ago 02/14/2022 11:35am EST

re: BTC-CBD

Their secret is getting the top talent in the world and training like monsters year round.

2 years ago 02/14/2022 11:39am EST

re: Darunner37

They improve far more than ALL other professional and collegiate groups, who are led by the best coaches in the world. Only Scott Simmons group is even close.

2 years ago 02/14/2022 11:40am EST

re: Darunner37

Yeah I'm not sure why this is so hard to understand. Yeah people can scream and whine about doping, etc, etc but you'd have to be naive to think that if BTC is doping then nobody else is. Regardless, they are still currently crushing the competition.

The truth is that this is the highest quality training group ever assembled.

2 years ago 02/14/2022 11:58am EST

re: BTC-CBD

I thought BTC was bitcoin lol

2 years ago 02/14/2022 12:06pm EST

re: rhimby

rhimby wrote:
Yeah I'm not sure why this is so hard to understand. Yeah people can scream and whine about doping, etc, etc but you'd have to be naive to think that if BTC is doping then nobody else is. Regardless, they are still currently crushing the competition.
The truth is that this is the highest quality training group ever assembled.

But how is this possible? Jerry is not really aware of much. I mean, he never even heard of Nandrolone. he probably know very little about anything

2 years ago 02/14/2022 12:14pm EST

re: rhimby

rhimby wrote:
Yeah I'm not sure why this is so hard to understand. Yeah people can scream and whine about doping, etc, etc but you'd have to be naive to think that if BTC is doping then nobody else is. Regardless, they are still currently crushing the competition.
The truth is that this is the highest quality training group ever assembled.

Same was said about US Postal cycling team back in the day.

2 years ago 02/14/2022 12:28pm EST

re: BTC-CBD

I sure hope it’s only CBD..

2 years ago 02/14/2022 12:35pm EST

re: BTC-CBD

Yeah, maybe. If we start to see times in the 12:35 and 26:11 range I’ll be more convinced.

2 years ago 02/14/2022 12:35pm EST

re: oldschoollrc

oldschoollrc wrote:
rhimby wrote:
Yeah I'm not sure why this is so hard to understand. Yeah people can scream and whine about doping, etc, etc but you'd have to be naive to think that if BTC is doping then nobody else is. Regardless, they are still currently crushing the competition.
The truth is that this is the highest quality training group ever assembled.
Same was said about US Postal cycling team back in the day.

So you think US Postal was the only cycling team that was doping?

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2 years ago 02/14/2022 1:06pm EST

re: BTC-CBD

BTC-CBD wrote:
They improve far more than ALL other professional and collegiate groups, who are led by the best coaches in the world. Only Scott Simmons group is even close.

Just a reminder that America is not the world, and BTC has precisely zero global gold medals to its name. It's the best group in the US, that's as much as you can conclude

2 years ago 02/14/2022 1:15pm EST

re: High hopes

High hopes wrote:
BTC-CBD wrote:
They improve far more than ALL other professional and collegiate groups, who are led by the best coaches in the world. Only Scott Simmons group is even close.
Just a reminder that America is not the world, and BTC has precisely zero global gold medals to its name. It's the best group in the US, that's as much as you can conclude

It's the best group anywhere in the world, outside of Kenya. Does that suffice?

2 years ago 02/14/2022 1:31pm EST

re: High hopes

High hopes wrote:
BTC-CBD wrote:
They improve far more than ALL other professional and collegiate groups, who are led by the best coaches in the world. Only Scott Simmons group is even close.
Just a reminder that America is not the world, and BTC has precisely zero global gold medals to its name. It's the best group in the US, that's as much as you can conclude

Are you serious?

en.wikipedia.org

Mohammed Ahmed (runner)

Mohammed Ahmed (born January 5, 1991) is a Canadian long-distance runner. A three-time Olympian, he is his country's most successful athlete in long distance racing, being the first to medal in the 5000 metres at both the Wor...

Link:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_Ahmed_(...

1 silver olympic medal from Tokyo

1 bronze medal from Doha

2 years ago 02/14/2022 2:00pm EST

re: BTC-CBD

My guess is that all those cutting edge, advanced training techniques that Al Sal and Rupp used to get Rupp to the top, have become more common in general and especially in the Bowerman group.

They are tracking everything and getting troves of data on training and recovery. They aren't sparing expense going to altitude, they are using expensive machines i.e alter G, cryotherapy, dedicated therapists (physical and mental).

And yes, they are likely using recovery tools that are borderline or will become banned in future years.

2 years ago 02/14/2022 2:02pm EST

re: BTC-CBD

BTC-CBD wrote:
They improve far more than ALL other professional and collegiate groups, who are led by the best coaches in the world. Only Scott Simmons group is even close.

Scott Simmoms lol!!!

2 years ago 02/15/2022 2:10am EST

re: BTC-CBD

BTC-CBD wrote:
High hopes wrote:
Just a reminder that America is not the world, and BTC has precisely zero global gold medals to its name. It's the best group in the US, that's as much as you can conclude
Are you serious?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_Ahmed_(runner)
1 silver olympic medal from Tokyo
1 bronze medal from Doha

Re-read my post, I said global gold medals.

2 years ago 02/15/2022 2:12am EST

re: kdsjkljfds

kdsjkljfds wrote:
High hopes wrote:
Just a reminder that America is not the world, and BTC has precisely zero global gold medals to its name. It's the best group in the US, that's as much as you can conclude
It's the best group anywhere in the world, outside of Kenya. Does that suffice?

The best group outside of Kenya, Ehtiopia, Uganda, and Norway. That will cover it

2 years ago 02/15/2022 6:47am EST

Kenneth Copeland, Verified Millionaire wrote:
Their secret is that they know the location of a food truck that sells burritos with uncastrated boar offal.
Shelby was the sacrificial piglet, er, lamb, that took one for the team so that location wouldn't be reveled - aka "letting the the pig out of the barn," if you will.

You know absolutely nothing, posting the same nonsense ad infinitum. Given the current state of SH's case, you can rightly have reservations regarding her status, but to go on and on about other members of the team, is an insult to those athletes and the BTC coaches. Jerry Schumacher is a talented coach, working with some of the world's best athletes. Period. I look forward to the day when SH is exonerated and perhaps then you will STFU.

2 years ago 02/15/2022 6:49am EST

re: BTC-CBD

Does lying Jerry know what nandy candy is yet?

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