Changes in performance after vaccination

Honestly, this sounds like overtraining. Unless he's got a clinical diagnosis of myocarditis, I'd go with Occam's Razor here. Tell him to get checked out anyway to be safe.

VoiceInWilderness wrote:

Discussing potential options for a well-documented medical phenomenon should never be misinformation. . . .

It would be helpful if you could point to those references in which it is "well-documented".

Actually the CDC just put something out about it.

I’m surprised the J&J shot is available at all now, but it is for those >18.

Our daughter had post covid clotting so when it came time for her to decide on whether or not to get the vaccine it was a very difficult decision. We know what covid does to her body so we know what to do if she gets it again. We don’t know what the vaccine will do. She is a healthcare worker and nursing student so she decided to get it. Her hematologist had her start a daily aspirin a few weeks before getting it and recommended she get Moderna. She was sick for 3 days. I don’t know if she will choose to get the second one.

It’s pretty easy to mock and say what you would do from behind a keyboard. It’s another when you are actually living it.

The methyl-group assault theory is worth considering. It should also apply to the vaccine.

MTHFR gene mutations cause reduced enzyme activity in maybe 10-20% of the population. That could be why some people are more affected than others.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33657459/

for my first two shots. No issues, I wasn't really training for anything but noticed no training effects (in term of paces, HR or times). Took one day off for each, I ran the morning before my afternoon shot. Moderna.

Got my booster right in the middle of my Half Marathon Training Cycle. Ran the next day (easy effort) and picked up my training the next week at same effort. Training continued and I wound up running 4 min. faster than my last half 6 yrs ago. I turned 50 last year as well.

I was discouraged to find that a newspaper article which listed Autophagy as bein a key to clearing spike proteins.

The reason I was discouraged was that I knew this for over a year but I felt like I helped no one with this information. Then, I remembered this post. Please let me know if you or anyone you know was helped by this information. It’s a personal request but some of us wanted to make a difference… it eases my suffering to know I helped.

We're just asking for trouble.

Thank you again for posting this information! It's the type of information we should be sharing on this board to help runners who are experiencing problems from long covid or the vaccine.

I lost my lower body due to the vaccine (got the jab in my butt). No more running for me.

It’s poison. SADS

Did you take mrna or DNA vaccine? In my country we have forbidden astra z and Johnson because of (i dont know the english word) blood plate anemia.

This. I've suspected since the beginning that athletes would be affected more by covid/vaccine because a tiny change in respiratory/heart function is noticeable to an athlete, but it is just ignored by the general public who are relatively clueless when it comes to monitoring slight changes in their health.

As case in point, I've had respiratory problems (pre-Covid) that absolutely adversely affected my running, but the pulmonologist found nothing since my hindered pulmonary performance was still FAR above average. Since he (and I) had no baseline to compare it to, he couldn't find a problem. I think this is happening on a large scale with the vaccine and to a lesser extent, covid itself. Hopefully, the effects will be temporary.

Regardless, thanks to VoiceInWilderness for sharing tips on how to treat vaccine damage.

This seems relevant…

bitchute.com

1000 Athletes Have Suddenly Died or Suffered Heart Disease from March 2021 to June 2022

Andreasss

Someone has put together a video of news reports of 1000 previously young, healthy athletes who have "suddenly" died or suffered crippling heart disease (heart attacks, blood clots, etc.) from March 2021 to June 2022. These "...

Link:www.bitchute.com/video/UYXBKFKHsTwL/

After getting the vaccine I could barely run more than 3M w/o having severe shortness of breath and my HR would start racing. I would have to stop and walk.

I am 100% convinced my issues were due to the vaccine. I did not get any of the boosters because of the reaction. (Also there appeared to be no point to the boosters- it doesn't prevent you from getting it or from spreading it. I dont care if I get C19 because I'll just be a little sick for a weekend.)

I had no significant reaction after my first three Covid shots - all Pfizer. Three months after I had Covid and about a month after I had finally fully recovered I got a second booster - this time Moderna. My running really suffered for about a month thereafter. Just kind of a general bad feeling, nothing specific, but a big drop off in performance. Fortunately, I am back to normal now.

This entire thread is a great illustration of correlation without causation. By which I mean: entirely useless.

I'm in agreement. A lot of misinformation and people just spouting their personal experiences. I am sure there are cases of the vaccine affecting people negatively. With 600 million vaccinations given, there are bound to be some complications. But considering that track and xc times across D1,D2, D3 and HS have all become significantly faster in the last 2 years (and we can assume many of these athletes are in fact vaccinated) than the opposite correlation without causation can be applied as well. When in fact it could have to do with the shoes or more time to train, etc.

The fact is, we don't really know the long term effects of Covid or the vaccinations. But to make it sound like every runner who gets the vaccine is going to develop heart disease is irresponsible and just plain wrong. hundreds of thousands HS and college runners have been jabbed with no ill effects.

Don't we know there have been far more serious heart problems in young healthy people who have been jabbed? What % are you okay with the jab causing serious heart problems in young healthy people? A 5% chance?