Will Sumner HUUUUGE 600m HS record

Manbearpig15 wrote:

Master Of Lolly wrote:

Or you could bring it up in 2 years, when he makes the Olympic team in the 800m.

Maybe. Depends if Georgia knows what they're doing with him. I just think he's more of a sure thing in the 1500m. I see him run and all I see is Coe, Morceli and El Guerrouj.

What 1500 runner is running 21.5 for 200m as a high school junior? Seems more likely 400m-800m.

rhojo wrote:

Manbearpig15 wrote:

Maybe. Depends if Georgia knows what they're doing with him. I just think he's more of a sure thing in the 1500m. I see him run and all I see is Coe, Morceli and El Guerrouj.

What 1500 runner is running 21.5 for 200m as a high school junior? Seems more likely 400m-800m.

Sebastian Coe

Manbearpig15 wrote:

rhojo wrote:

What 1500 runner is running 21.5 for 200m as a high school junior? Seems more likely 400m-800m.

Sebastian Coe

Note even close. Coe was a 3000 runner in high school. Ovett allegedly ran 21.7h age 18 or so.

Manbearpig15 wrote:

rhojo wrote:

What 1500 runner is running 21.5 for 200m as a high school junior? Seems more likely 400m-800m.

Sebastian Coe

For wasn’t that fast in HS. He didn’t get the speed until he got the juice.

Really talented runner. After watching his 500 and 600 records it looked like he can go lower in both. He's incredible. His speed endurance and record indoor times at such a young age indicate great 800m potential.

Bump for the best indoor prep record in years. For comparison, Michael Saruni opened his season with 1:16, and someone pushing him. This kid is the Real Deal.

His father (Brad Sumner) held the indoor 600m record a bazillion years ago.

Great performance. The record is now about where it should be; the previous record was weak. The kid who had the previous record never was a 47x/1:52x athlete in high school. These are very good marks, but not at the level you would expect to set national records. I had a college teammate run 1:16x; he ran 1:46 low that outdoor season and consistently split 46x on relays. Being that Will has a faster 600 pr and 3 years younger than this athlete, I would not be surprise to see him go 45/1:45 'outdoors'.

TrackCoach wrote:

Great performance. The record is now about where it should be; the previous record was weak. The kid who had the previous record never was a 47x/1:52x athlete in high school. These are very good marks, but not at the level you would expect to set national records. I had a college teammate run 1:16x; he ran 1:46 low that outdoor season and consistently split 46x on relays. Being that Will has a faster 600 pr and 3 years younger than this athlete, I would not be surprise to see him go 45/1:45 'outdoors'.

World Athletics tables give it a 1:46.12 equivalent.

snowdays wrote:

lmb wrote:

The progeny of two Villanova runners: Tosha Woodward and Brad Sumner.

interesting. on WA profiles, parents roughly:

55.6/2:00/4:14 (1500m)

1:46/3:59 (mile)

Do these even embed here anymore?

John Wesley Harding wrote:

snowdays wrote:

interesting. on WA profiles, parents roughly:

55.6/2:00/4:14 (1500m)

1:46/3:59 (mile)

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Do these even embed here anymore?

Dad (Brad) won the KeeblerInvite as a Senior in 1989 (Huge post-season prep race in Illinois that soon-after became called the IPI I think) and had the fastest time in the country that year (1:50.71 at Keebler). In the mix at NCAA later in his carreer and anchored Villanova to a PennRelays 4 x 8 title when Georgetown (Holman, Trautman, Frey) and Arkansas were absolutely loaded.

JohnNgugi wrote:

John Wesley Harding wrote:

https://tenor.com/81Lb.gif

Do these even embed here anymore?

Dad (Brad) won the KeeblerInvite as a Senior in 1989 (Huge post-season prep race in Illinois that soon-after became called the IPI I think) and had the fastest time in the country that year (1:50.71 at Keebler). In the mix at NCAA later in his carreer and anchored Villanova to a PennRelays 4 x 8 title when Georgetown (Holman, Trautman, Frey) and Arkansas were absolutely loaded.

Like father like son:

Apparently focused more on the 200/400 than the 800 this season.

https://www.milesplit.com/articles/308697/on-the-line-will-sumner-on-family-history-and-natl-records

The speed version of Hobbs Kessler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLpoOU70CcU

Like father like son:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTlgFLJklW0

Thanks for posting that. It reminded me how much I loved those old post-season meets and how much LarryRawson is an idiot and has no idea wtf he's talking about. (I think that's the annoucer's name.) BradSumner HATED running cross country, and definitely wasn't a miler. (I walked on for a while at Villanova and actually was in Brad's class. Running back from a workout in the fall of '89 another walk-on asked Brad if he was going to do the PhillyDistanceRun that weekend. "Yeah, right. Maybe on my bike.")

Sometimes some of these long sprinters and mid-distance guys find that absolute sweet spot in these odd indoor distances, like 300m, 500m, 600m (sometimes 1000m, too). Similarly, in longer distances, you get guys who are greatest between 15k-25k, but not so much in the 10000m or marathon.

Here's hoping Sumner isn't one of those tweeners, like Strymar Livingston and some of those others.

michimanx wrote:

Sometimes some of these long sprinters and mid-distance guys find that absolute sweet spot in these odd indoor distances, like 300m, 500m, 600m (sometimes 1000m, too). Similarly, in longer distances, you get guys who are greatest between 15k-25k, but not so much in the 10000m or marathon.

Here's hoping Sumner isn't one of those tweeners, like Strymar Livingston and some of those others.

Considering his dad's success as an 800 runner (and his mom's at longer), I would bet on blue-ribbon potential in that event.

Manbearpig15 wrote:

IF this kid wants to be legendary, he needs to run the 1500m. He will be good at the 800m but the 1500m is where it's at. It's like how Bowerman had to break it to Prefontaine that he wasn't a miler.

I watch him run and all I see is Coe, Morceli, El Guerrouj. He has the tools to beat Cole Hocker and that means he would be a factor in any global 1500m for a long time.

lmao. this is a PEAK letsrun post.

this high school kid has the fastest 400 and 800 times in the country right now(and a fast 200m) and you are saying he needs to move up to the 1500m.....

if letsrun had their way, bolt would have just given up on the 100 200 and been a pure 400 800m guy

michimanx wrote:

Sometimes some of these long sprinters and mid-distance guys find that absolute sweet spot in these odd indoor distances, like 300m, 500m, 600m (sometimes 1000m, too). Similarly, in longer distances, you get guys who are greatest between 15k-25k, but not so much in the 10000m or marathon.

Here's hoping Sumner isn't one of those tweeners, like Strymar Livingston and some of those others.

he has the fastest times in the country in the 400 and 800.....those are NOT odd distances....