MidFootStriker wrote:
Jagged Jag wrote:
Nope. I picked the current top Americans. Most will be shocked to see that to Americans develop slowly. I listed 5. If you call that cherry picking, I challenge you to list at least 5 current Americans in the range of 3:55-4:02 type PRs and list their PRs at age 19. You will lose. I didn't cherry pick at all. These are the only women that I think I left out who are in that range. Norris PR at 19 was 4:27. Mcgee was 4:16. Osika was 4:17. That's about everyone that I am aware of. That is the opposite of cherry picking. So Mu is faster than nearly every top American at the age of 19 but people don't think she can improve as much as women who were training for that distance? Logic says that she should be able to improve more than them.
Dude your the definition of a KOOK... just like arguing with a religious KOOK... you can literally do this for every top runner at any distance... 100m 200m 400m 800m 1500m 5000m... obviously the best in the world will have potential to be pretty good up or down 1...
WOW WHAT A SHOCK! GENIUS! YOUR EINSTEIN!! WHAT A REVELATION!!
She's not going to risk losing gold in 400 AND 800 for the chance to be an American record holder but SUCK internationally at all 3 distances!!!,
And it is cherry picking because your picking an age where she is and not taking into account she has made zero progress at 1500m...
Jenny simpson 1500m
2006 4:32.17 Boulder, CO (USA) 06 APR 2006
2007 4:21.53 Walnut, CA (USA) 13 APR 2007
2008 4:11.36 Luzern (SUI) 16 JUL 2008
2009 3:59.90 Eugene, OR (USA)
Simpson improves dramatically over 4 years to world class level
Athing mu
Outdoor 1500 Metres
Performance Place Date
2015 4:38.72 Norfolk, VA (USA) 04 AUG 2015
2016 4:38.48 Kissimmee, FL (USA) 14 JUL 2016
2017 4:33.04 Ypsilanti, MI (USA) 01 AUG 2017
2018 4:38.78 Des Moines, IA (USA) 31 JUL 2018
2021 4:16.06 Mike A. Myers Stadium, Austin, TX (USA)
2022 4:18.08 converted from mile
Athing mu shows stagnant times from terrible to plain bad by world class standards
And here's a bunch of girls way better at same age...
Tuohy 412 at 19... 409 converted at 19... Mary Cain 404 at 17... ethraimson 404 at at 18.
Rank Mark Competitor DOB Nat Pos Venue Date Results Score
1 4:03.39 Alexa EFRAIMSON 20 FEB 1997 USAUSA 7 Hayward Field, Eugene, OR (USA) 30 MAY 2015 1178
2 4:04.62 Mary CAIN 03 MAY 1996 USAUSA 2f1 Los Angeles, CA (USA) 17 MAY 2013 1169
3 4:07.21 Kate MURPHY 15 AUG 1999 USAUSA 1 Somerville, MA (USA) 17 JUN 2016 1148
4 4:08.71 Christina ARAGON 17 JUN 1997 USAUSA 3 Zdzislaw Krzyszkowiak Stadium, Bydgoszcz (POL) 24 JUL 2016 1136
5 4:09.08 Katie RAINSBERGER 18 AUG 1998 USAUSA 2f1 Portland, OR (USA) 16 JUN 2017 1134
6 4:09.10 Suzy FAVOR HAMILTON 08 AUG 1968 USAUSA 6 San José (USA) 27 JUN 1987 1133
7 4:12.55 Katelyn TUOHY 18 MAR 2002 USAUSA 2h2 Paul Derr TF Facility, Raleigh, NC (USA) 13 MAY 2021 1107
Just the luck of the draw that the top three got injured there otherwise she would be way behind!
Not to mention another dozen girls 20 and 21 who are sub 410...
Yes she could potentially be a VERY good American 1500m runner while becoming worse at 400 and 800... it's not gonna happen! Because it would be a retarded version of success!
LITERALLY! RETARDING HER POTENTIAL!