Rojo's disappointing language about trans athletes

Do you feel it is every woman's right to have a penis, or that this is something that only a few women should be allowed?

Given, to have a penis with no testosterone wouldn't be that useful.

So the question should be, should every woman have the right to have a useful penis of her own?

This is a fascinating subject because of course none of us asked to be born. Are they bringing it on themselves by wanting to be the other gender? Is their desire to be the other gender of genetic origin? If so it is difficult to see how they are bringing it on themselves. This was often language used to discuss gays too. I am not sure what to make of it but if genetics is are involved, is it involved in them being born a certain gender and wanting to be the other gender? Then it would not be bringing it on themselves. This takes an understanding I would not expect to find here.

They are in fact 'bringing it' (it being criticism? hardly unreasonable) on themselves by being male and forcing themselves in spaces for females.

They are bringing it on themselves by competing in the division of the opposite sex.

Nice job outing yourself as a lunatic.

streak wrote:

They are in fact 'bringing it' (it being criticism? hardly unreasonable) on themselves by being male and forcing themselves in spaces for females.

and why do you think they might do that?

It's obviously bringing on lots of criticism and stress on themselves. One has to think the thrill of victory is definitely significant;y diminished under these conditions. At this level, monetary gains are a non-factor.

Then why?

I'd be interested to hear your theory.

Lia Thomas is brnging it on herself. And notice how I say herself out of respect. As I've said before, my name is Robert but if I ask you to call me Bob then you should do so as a sign of respect but when I go to the border and present my passport I'm still Robert.

She's bringing it on herself by demanding to play D1 sports in the women's / female category. She isn't a woman or female - she is a transwoman. The "bringing it on herself" comment only relates to her deire to play d1 sports as a woman. When I was 25, I couldn't go back and have the college career I never had because of injuries. I wasn't eligible.

Your analogy is a very bad one and very disrespectful to the gay rights movement. They just wanted the same rights every other human has. Guess what? Lia Thomas and all trans athletes already had that. Lia Thomas has a whole category of sports she can compete in, it's just not the one created for biolgical females.

The last time I checked gay rights movement had nothing to do with elite level sports. Gays gaining the right to sleep with whomever they want and get married and visit each other in the hospital doesn't negatively impact anyone else. They were just gaining the same rights that others have.

Have you ever heard of "Your rights end where mine begin" or "your right to swing your arm ends where my nose is"?

I never said that was the case. While I do believe history has shown some humans will exploit all loopholes, the reality is I don't care why she is doing it. If you commit an armed robbery, I don't really care if it's because you are hungry or if you are a psychopath - it's still somethign that shouldnt' take place.

The reality is the trans male swimmer from Yale that beat Thomas is still competing in the women's category. It's not ruining her life to do so - nor should competing in the men's category for Thomas.

There is no human right to be an elite level athlete.

It's a mental illness, and should be treated as such. Absolutely ridiculous what is happening in the world right now. We don't tell schizophrenics that the delusions they are having are real and accept them. I don't understand why this is any different. We medicate them to try and stop their delusions. Now it's gone completely opposite and we support the delusions.

God people are stupid (not offensive Bc Rojo says this all the time)

Instead of Rojo conceding AT ALL, he instead doubles down on his ignorant and hateful rhetoric.

Rojo! While we all you know you spend your times watching and reading Fox News, are a message board administrator of a running website. You ARE NOT a political pundit.

Time to grow up, sonny boy

Trans or whatever you want to call it has been viewed as morally wrong and offensive since the beginning of time in basically all cultures on earth.

Jay cut wrote:

It's a mental illness, and should be treated as such. Absolutely ridiculous what is happening in the world right now. We don't tell schizophrenics that the delusions they are having are real and accept them. I don't understand why this is any different. We medicate them to try and stop their delusions. Now it's gone completely opposite and we support the delusions.

This guy gets it. It’s obvious so not sure why it even needs to be said.

Simple solution is if you have a dick you cant play womens sports.

Instead of trying to flame Rojo, why don't you address his points, like he did to the OP? It doesn't add much to the discussion if you just say that Rojo is an idiot and leave it at that.

Soccer T's wrote:

streak wrote:

They are in fact 'bringing it' (it being criticism? hardly unreasonable) on themselves by being male and forcing themselves in spaces for females.

and why do you think they might do that?

It's obviously bringing on lots of criticism and stress on themselves. One has to think the thrill of victory is definitely significant;y diminished under these conditions. At this level, monetary gains are a non-factor.

Then why?

I'd be interested to hear your theory.

Why does "why" matter? I have theories but have no idea if they're correct and either way it doesn't matter. Is it for the thrill of victory? Maybe. If they weren't concerned about how well they do competitively they could compete as males and avoid the criticism and stress but obviously wouldn't do as well so maybe the thrill of victory, or near victory, makes enduring the criticism and stress worthwhile.

It’s just interesting to me that male transitions to female competes with females. Female is a “trans male” competes with females. I have no issue with the later. You should compete in the category you were biologically born.

I have no issue with the trans community but why do you force yourself into elite competition? Get a new hobby.

Never ever explain anything to the clown show that is a modern American liberal. They are freakin crazy and deserve neither time nor attention.

I think Bob presented his case right on the spot and I agree with his point. 👍

Truth is never disappointing. Sorry.

Correct! Treat their illness but don’t allow them to take over sport. Such a joke.

Amazing about the Fox News comments. Yes, keep doubling down on stupidity ignorance and anti science. Blane it on Fox News instead of calling it the mental illness that it is.