I think 100% of the PR efforts for Rory and Fauble should be credited to the shoes. Does anyone know what shoes they are wearing? I’m guessing not those trash cans of a shoe designed by Hoka.
I think 100% of the PR efforts for Rory and Fauble should be credited to the shoes. Does anyone know what shoes they are wearing? I’m guessing not those trash cans of a shoe designed by Hoka.
I saw a picture on Instagram of Rory with Ryan and Sara Hall, Rory in sweats and Sara in race kit with supershoes. Rory was wearing Boston 10’s it looked like?
Just double checked Ryan’s post and he posted another picture of Rory training and he was wearing Alphaflys. I’d bet he was wearing those. Fauna? No idea but I’m interested as if his Instagram signature is to be believed he’s no longer sponsored by Hoka.
Tugboat1980 wrote:
Just double checked Ryan’s post and he posted another picture of Rory training and he was wearing Alphaflys. I’d bet he was wearing those. Fauna? No idea but I’m interested as if his Instagram signature is to be believed he’s no longer sponsored by Hoka.
It's been confirmed that he's not with Hoka, so it almost definitely won't be the rocket x
Good for him, Hoka shoes just don't cut it and there's no excuse anymore. The "magic formula" of pebax foam and carbon plate is known to everyone. If a company can't innovate a competitive shoe from that then they're just selling their athletes short. Maybe Fauble has just had an amazing training block but a 2 minute PR looks more like evidence of just how bad Hoka shoes are
Rory wore the blk next%2, Fauble wore alphafly
I was trying to watch the Houston Marathon coverage on YouTube and I couldn’t see much but the flashes of color I saw on Scott’s shoes reminded me of an Alphafly. Not surprising to see them in Nikes.
hokassuck wrote:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYzXijOL662/?utm_medium=copy_link
Who is the other guy in the picture putting the brakes on?
Tugboat1980 wrote:
I was trying to watch the Houston Marathon coverage on YouTube and I couldn’t see much but the flashes of color I saw on Scott’s shoes reminded me of an Alphafly. Not surprising to see them in Nikes.
Of course it's not surprising. Didn't both these guys run their first 30,000 miles in the Swoosh? If it's what you wore in high school, long before anything 'super' was created and without any financial incentive to do so, you are Nike-loyal. Unless someone pays them to wear something else, that's what they'll be in. This is NOT shocking news.
Ssorokoty wrote:
I think 100% of the PR efforts for Rory and Fauble should be credited to the shoes. Does anyone know what shoes they are wearing? I’m guessing not those trash cans of a shoe designed by Hoka.
I'm not sure how much time they took off.their old PRs. Anyone have the numbers in front of you? They were worth about a minute and a quarter for Kipchoge over the full. That day in Berlin, however, was close to ideal in many ways. The weather, the personal drink guy on the bike, perfect pacing (a given in a pure time trial but not in a competitve race in which he could surge to get rid of an opponent). I suspect he'd have broken his PR in the funky old shoes with the insole issue or equivalent. So if he'd have gone significantly undsr 2:03 (and Kimetto's record) that day with old shoes, were they worth an honest minute?
It's hard to imagine that same amount over a half, especially considering EK was the guy both Nike 'super shoe' lines were designed for. Meaning, he was the guy on the treadmill with the machines hooked up. In the same sense that the Saucony shoe is probably approaching ideal for Ward - he was wearing many variations with major and minor changes on the 'mill to get it as good as they could - EK likely stands to benefit more than a random runner. Certainly not less. I guess I'm saying it's hard to attribute any huge amount to shoes alone given that the guy for whom the shoes are perfectly designed could only get a minute while running twice as far.
1 month of a new coach didn't do anything.
Just as the 4 hour marathoner has no business in the Vaporfly, the 2:10 marathoner has no business in Hokas.
well you're not wrong
1 month of a new coach is no time at all
There have been multiple independent studies of the Nike shoes, on athletes of different abilities. Across the board, the average improvement in running economy was 4%, but the biggest finding has been that every single person who wore them, benefited to some extent. It's not even a debate now, the Nike shoes definitively reduce the energy it takes to run for everyone, not just Kipchoge. No one can say exactly what the shoes are worth in minutes/seconds, but the best estimate I've seen by Geoff Burns is that they are worth 1:30-2:00 over a marathon for an elite male.
I find it entirely plausible that someone could improve their PR by 1:30 over the HM just by swapping from crappy EVA based shoes to the Alphafly
Rory Linkletter's previous PR was: 1:01:44 at Houston in 2020.
Fauble's previous PR was: 1:02:18 at the 2020 Michigan Pro Half Marathon.
High hopes wrote:
There have been multiple independent studies of the Nike shoes, on athletes of different abilities. Across the board, the average improvement in running economy was 4%, but the biggest finding has been that every single person who wore them, benefited to some extent.
It's not true that every single person who wears super shoes benefits from them. Research shows that the benefit decreases with a runner's higher cadence and lower vertical oscillation, and with the right combination of those, there is no benefit at all.
Look at Fauble’s IG page: he was wearing Alphaflies while Linkletter was wearing Vaporflies during the Houston Hal Marathon
I bought the carbon rocket 2s…and they were such a slow, awful shoe. The rincon is faster than the carbon rocket 2, faster being a relative term here. Vaporfly is so much better
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing
Great interview with Steve Cram - says Jakob has no chance of WRs this year
Hats off to my dad. He just ran a 1:42 Half Marathon and turns 75 in 2 months!
2017 World 800 champ Pierre-Ambroise Bosse banned 1 year for whereabouts failures