Have you ever met a Calvinist?

/mu/tant runner wrote:

But have you ever met someone who is a Calvinist proper? It seems like these churches still somewhat exist, but are pretty sparse. I have never met one. If you have: were they big into predestination? the total depravity of the soul? Did they hate Catholics & Monasteries? -- or were they just like any other protestant you have met?

Yeah lots. A Calvinist will correct you if you say someone is a "good person" because while a person is occasionally capable of performing a good action, all people are actually still terrible. I think that's the correct take

coachcommentsnicely wrote:

Pride comets before the fall. 🤷‍♂️

Comets don't fall, they orbit.

You mean a "meteoroid".

theologist wrote:

coachcommentsnicely wrote:

Pride comets before the fall. 🤷‍♂️

Comets don't fall, they orbit.

You mean a "meteoroid".

I should’ve proofread before I “comet’ed”

randomist wrote:

Am more of a Hobbsist myself.

LOL

theologist wrote:

predestin-what??? wrote:

Most non Christian’s or even Christian’s don’t realize that most of the New Testament was written by a man that never even met Jesus but instead saw him in a vision. Nobody believes someone who saw a vision so why would we believe Paul? Yet he almost entirely shapes Protestantism and Calvinism.

Not most. All. All of the new testament was written decades after the death of Jesus. This is well known by theologians.

There are no eyewitness accounts of Jesus. Anywhere. Not in the bible. Not outside of the bible. Everything in and out of the bible is a collection of second (or third, fourth, or fifth) hand accounts, or accounts of the followers.

Wrong. John and Matthew wrote two of the gospels, and they were with Jesus. Add in Peter's letters, and James', and there are enough to dismiss your claim.

Calvinism is a flawed interpretation of the word of God. The sooner people reject this erroneous teaching, the sooner they will be embraced by God.

coachcommentsnicely wrote:

To everyone else; keep reminding us how much you hate a God that “doesn’t exist”. Keep wasting your energy telling us how smart you are and how dumb/brainwashed we are.

Pride comets before the fall. 🤷‍♂️

No one made this a “God doesn’t exist” thread or said how smart they are. Then again, I wouldn’t expect a Calvinist to have reading comprehension or critical thinking skills do you’re right about the dumb part.

To coachcommentsnicely:

How does one know if they are in the elect or not?

joalturn wrote:

To coachcommentsnicely:

How does one know if they are in the elect or not?

Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved. Only those called by God believe in Jesus.

Predestin…what: my comments were more for the other guy. If you and I can agree that the Bible is the word of God, then let’s use it to make our arguments and not continue to make strawman and false analogies.

55YO wrote:

Calvinism is a flawed interpretation of the word of God. The sooner people reject this erroneous teaching, the sooner they will be embraced by God.

How can we know this God person is someone we would want to be embraced by?

Most of the stories compare him to a livestock herder, who typically ends up killing and eating the livestock in the end.

Bad Wigins wrote:

55YO wrote:

Calvinism is a flawed interpretation of the word of God. The sooner people reject this erroneous teaching, the sooner they will be embraced by God.

How can we know this God person is someone we would want to be embraced by?

Most of the stories compare him to a livestock herder, who typically ends up killing and eating the livestock in the end.

Oh wow. Dang it Wiggins. You are so smart. Bravo!

coachcommentsnicely wrote:

Raised Calvinist wrote:

That's not an interesting question at all, except to a few unemployed cannabis abusers. Most other people have no interest in that question, no matter what the answer is.

This comment is funny to me because most people I know who’ve read them work +40 hours a week and raise a family.

To everyone else; keep reminding us how much you hate a God that “doesn’t exist”. Keep wasting your energy telling us how smart you are and how dumb/brainwashed we are.

Pride comets before the fall. 🤷‍♂️

It's still not an interesting question, even after learning of your strange belief that reading that particular book makes you work harder.

Then you changed the topic with some irrelevant and overly-defensive straw man claims. Your entire post was pretty pointless and out of place.

Raised Calvinist wrote:

coachcommentsnicely wrote:

This comment is funny to me because most people I know who’ve read them work +40 hours a week and raise a family.

To everyone else; keep reminding us how much you hate a God that “doesn’t exist”. Keep wasting your energy telling us how smart you are and how dumb/brainwashed we are.

Pride comets before the fall. 🤷‍♂️

It's still not an interesting question, even after learning of your strange belief that reading that particular book makes you work harder.

Then you changed the topic with some irrelevant and overly-defensive straw man claims. Your entire post was pretty pointless and out of place.

I never made the claim that reading that particular book makes you with harder. I just found your comment funny as it is the exact opposite of what I’ve observed. Don’t be so defensive.

My second statement was for the atheists in the discussion. What’s the point in discussing secondary issues with someone when we can’t agree on the primary issue God exists and Jesus reigns)?

Makes you work harder*

coachcommentsnicely wrote:

Raised Calvinist wrote:

That's not an interesting question at all, except to a few unemployed cannabis abusers. Most other people have no interest in that question, no matter what the answer is.

This comment is funny to me because most people I know who’ve read them work +40 hours a week and raise a family.

To everyone else; keep reminding us how much you hate a God that “doesn’t exist”. Keep wasting your energy telling us how smart you are and how dumb/brainwashed we are.

Pride comets before the fall. 🤷‍♂️

One doesn't "hate" that which he doesn't acknowledge as existing.

"Pride": comes intwo kinds --like cholesterol: the healthy kind (confidence in proven skills and achievements) and hybrid (hubris, the basis of Tragedy and immorality.) Collective "hubris" shows most dramatically in massive groups of humans who claim rights to eternal rewards and dominion over all thin gs and creatures, that they were created in the image of a god of theircreation.

"hybris" (spellcheck doesn't like that wordeither...)

If one of you is wrong, all of you are wrong.

You spend a lot of time dwelling on something you don’t believe exists.

I’m sure I have the LDL and you have HDL?

I claim no right to eternal reward. In fact, I claim that I deserve eternal punishment. There is nothing that I have done to earn a reward.

I would also not claim dominion over all things and creatures. There have been some who claim that they do have dominion over all things and creatures, and they use that claim to abuse the earth and its creatures. Instead I would claim that Christ has dominion, and that I am a steward. It is our responsibility to take care of all things and creatures. Which we as a collective people have failed miserably at.

And I’d say that every person is made in the “image” of God, not just me. That’s why everyone deserves respect, love and kindness.

Calvin's doctrine of cessationism was also unbiblical. It's a miracle it lasted as long as it did.