Why aren't excess death totals plumeting?

It was all our doing. Our great plan to sterilize mankind and restore the planet to nature. Bats and Pangolins shall now rule the earth. Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha!

Maybe we as a world are just dying more now coz we are disillusioned with our world and slowly hanging our shoes.

Why would deaths be plummeting now, when the consequences of the "vaccines" are kicking in?

If you poison people, they tend to show symptoms of poisoning. Shocking, I know.

https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/unprecedented-deaths-in-indiana-for

https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/new-big-data-study-of-145-countries

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/covid-infections-and-deaths-soar

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/all-cause-mortality-in-germany-is/comments

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/internal-hospital-data-confirm-a/comments

https://palexander.substack.com/p/uk-health-security-agency-first-covid

And so on, ad infinitum.

real data wrote:

I thought all the deaths in 2020 were just people who would have died by now anyway....why have we still been seeing 10,000-20,000 excess deaths a week this Fall/Winter?

Didn't 10,000 extra people die a week in 2020 that were supposed to die in 2021?

At some point aren't total deaths going to have to plummet waaaay below normal? Didn't we just have nearly a million extra people die a year or two early? So the year they SHOULD have died should have a really low death rate right.....because they all died early. Maybe 2022? Should be 10% below normal..right?...right?

maybe 2023?

Nothing is cut and dry, but what if most of the “excess deaths” can be explained by a couple things?

2019 - lower deaths than normal

The avg population is older than it ever has been in the US (in our lifetime), thus more people are going to die

Average age of Covid deaths in 2020 was 77. Average of death in US is 78 so these people were not going to be spread across the next 15 years as some have said. There has to be a great year coming or else something is wrong with the data.

real data wrote:

LikeAnsweringQuestionsOnAmazon. wrote:

Cheese and rice! I told you I agreed, what do you want?

Well I was confused, at first you said you agreed then you said the complete opposite.

No, I did not say the complete opposite I gave something like a slight juxtaposition at most. If this is about winning the internet though, you can have it.

Steve Kirsch lolololol

Jeffery Morris, an actual expert in biostats, has somehow found the time to wage war on Kirsch's idiocy. It's enjoyable to watch:

https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/response-to-steve-kirsch-s-ad-hominem-attack-and-clarifying-the-key-sleight-of-hand-in-his-argument

real data wrote:

LikeAnsweringQuestionsOnAmazon. wrote:

I agree, but was taking a conservative approach.

how would it be anything even close to the trend line though if 90% + (unafialiated approach) were on deaths door? Still talking about a 900,000 person dip...that ain't gonna just blend in. It's gonna be a big 'ol "I told ya so" dip in the data. Soon. 900,000 doesn't lie.

Why?? You’re not explaining your assumptions. If the 900k people were going to die in 2020-21 anyway, and thus would not be expected to die in 2022 they wouldn’t have been counted as excess deaths!

You’re correct that there will be fewer deaths than previously expected simply because the starting population for 2022 is 900k people fewer than expected.

No, and not even a good try. Trying to mask faulty reasoning with emotion shows you're weak with math.

The people who had a year or so to live in 2020 are no longer around. The people who had a year or so to live in 2021 have likewise mostly perished. This year, we have a brand new set of people whose comorbidities would give them a year or so to live.

That's how "year or so to live" works, more or less. It's pretty much always gonna be different people year after year. They don't just all finally die off and nobody new reaches that year-to-go zone.

Harambe wrote:

real data wrote:

weren't like 99.9% of them 'one foot in the grave' types? no way we should be anywhere near the trendline once we passed the pandemic.......we're talking about a million people, ....chart should look like a huge divot very very soon.

If these people were 'foot in the grave'... why are there excess deaths at all? If they were already going to die this year the excess death baseline should include them. This is fishy. I blame Fauci

Excellent troll job by real data. Captures antivaxxer/covid deniers mentality really well: just complete denial and delusion

It's a good question. Maybe, possibly, a little premature but appropriate.

There are so many variables like the enormous amount of people at retirement age or older. More than ever. Nobody lives forever...do the math

antivaxxers killing-democracy wrote:

Harambe wrote:

If these people were 'foot in the grave'... why are there excess deaths at all? If they were already going to die this year the excess death baseline should include them. This is fishy. I blame Fauci

Excellent troll job by real data. Captures antivaxxer/covid deniers mentality really well: just complete denial and delusion

The answer is drug overdoses

I am betting that the numbers get reconciled. The experts will be like some of the posters who claim that the deaths would have been spread out over a period of time. By the time that anybody could figure it out, nobody will care.

Your failure/refusal to comprehend is amazing. It's not even that complicated of an idea and yet you can't seem to wrap your mind around it.

2600 bro wrote:

real data wrote:

how would it be anything even close to the trend line though if 90% + (unafialiated approach) were on deaths door? Still talking about a 900,000 person dip...that ain't gonna just blend in. It's gonna be a big 'ol "I told ya so" dip in the data. Soon. 900,000 doesn't lie.

Why?? You’re not explaining your assumptions. If the 900k people were going to die in 2020-21 anyway, and thus would not be expected to die in 2022 they wouldn’t have been counted as excess deaths!

You’re correct that there will be fewer deaths than previously expected simply because the starting population for 2022 is 900k people fewer than expected.

I'm talking about people who would have died in 2022 but died in 2021 or 2020 because of covid.........in other words, the VAST majority of the 900,000 excess deaths.

Yeah, obviously people who were going to die in 2020 or 2021 anyway but died of covid won't show up as part of that 900,000. They were already accounted for in the expected death numbers.

The 900,000 extra deaths have to come from somewhere though. Obviously people who were going to die in 2022 is the most likely source.... maybe some slight overflow into 2023.

But that dip is coming soon. Just watch. Will be a bunch of pro maskers/pro lockdwn/pro vaccine clows suddenly feeling reaaalllly stupid that they wrecked the economy for a bunch of people that would be dead by 2022 anyhow.

Might be fair to call it the 'See I told ya! Wave'......except it's a dip, not a wave. (just doesn't have same ring though. maybe they can turn the data upside down.)

real data wrote:

The 900,000 extra deaths have to come from somewhere though. Obviously people who were going to die in 2022 is the most likely source.... maybe some slight overflow into 2023.

Probably not. The last time someone took a seriously look at this, the average person dying of Covid could have expected another 10 years of life, so the rebound in excess deaths will get split up over a decade. Meanwhile we'll have holdover deaths from Covid for at least a couple more years (stubbornly unvaxxed people, vaxxed people already at high risk, and people with long-term effects from prior infections), so the effect will get canceled out to some extent for at least a couple years.

real data wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

No, and not even a good try. Trying to mask faulty reasoning with emotion shows you're weak with math.

The people who had a year or so to live in 2020 are no longer around. The people who had a year or so to live in 2021 have likewise mostly perished. This year, we have a brand new set of people whose comorbidities would give them a year or so to live.

That's how "year or so to live" works, more or less. It's pretty much always gonna be different people year after year. They don't just all finally die off and nobody new reaches that year-to-go zone.

Your failure/refusal to comprehend is amazing. It's not even that complicated of an idea and yet you can't seem to wrap your mind around it.

Don't try to sound smart if you're only a comedian. The best you can hope for is to amuse people.

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