What percentage of doctors and lawyers are in business to rip people off and take every dime you have and why do they

Lot of conning goes on in business. If you go to a mechanic, theyll overcharge you if they think you don't know much about cars but have money to spend. Same thing applies to other occupations and industries. Money is the root of evil.

Lawyers? 90%

Doctors 70%

Dentists 85%

In my experience, it's surprisingly low with lawyers, maybe 40% are scam artist, and they usually practice in certain areas like personal injury and certain criminal defense firms (not public defenders).

Doctors are the opposite, again in my experience. I'd say 80% are a joke and just leveraging their medical license to scam people. Part of that is because their job has become a joke - they do very little except prescribe pills based on what internet searches and pharmaceutical company reps tell them to do. But basically the "profession" just attracts scam artists and pricks.

I realize most of society view this in the completely opposite way -- all lawyers are crooks and doctors are saints. I disagree.

Attending MDs are almost all one type of person-- academically smart person who is good at school wants to make a lot of money. The most sought-after residencies are different surgery positions (actual gunners with their foot on the gas THROUGH med school) and dermatology (people who pretended to care until the moment they got accepted and now want to make 250k and go home at 3pm)

For non-surgical stuff, they will 99% of the time simply prescribe the medicine that purports to stop the signs and symptoms you are experiencing. Which is what you could have done yourself, if you had the authority to do so. They will even leave it up to the pharmacist to determine if it's actually safe for you to take. They do not have the least bit of curiosity about you or your health.

In both professions, there are some who do the best job they can, in their knowledge, but there are some who are disinterested in what is best for their client and it is just monetary motivation or laziness or both. Attorneys, I've dealt with both. Few medical doctors will venture "out of the box" to treat someone.

100% 💯

my parents are both primary care physicians. doctors are incentivized by the system to just get you in and out of the exam room with a solution that makes you feel like they've done something, which often means prescribing medication. you think most people want to hear the truth, which is that the vast majority of their problems are the result of them eating too much, exercising to little, and general lack of fulfillment in life? no - they want a pill. often opiates. my parents are basically retired now but by the end of their careers they were basically treating old people, depressed people, and people with chronic pain (often all three at once). they're not trying to rip you off. that's the insurance companies and hospital/clinic admins.

are there incompetent/dishonest doctors? absolutely. there was a time when my parents had an OB patient who needed an emergency C-section in the middle of the night. the general surgeon on call showed up drunk. just because it's hard to get into med school doesn't mean they're all squeaky clean geniuses. they had another colleague who started several BS evangelical churches (with him as self-ordained minister) and a vinyl siding business.

You have a plethora of idiots letting real estate agents steal a bag. LOL Don't hire these con artist clowns.

Medicine is a for-profit business these days. That’s not to say you can’t find a doctor who cares about you and will listen and talk to you, but it’s getting harder. American culture also demands that a doctor prescribe a medicine to ‘cure’ the problem or order a state of the art test to diagnose something. If the doctor says this isn’t necessary, or tells a fatty to lose 100 lbs, the indignant patient will just find another doctor and leave bad online reviews.

Doctors aren’t reimbursed for talking to patients.

They’re reimbursed for doing procedures, making diagnoses etc, so that’s what they will do. If they don’t, in our culture they’ll be out of business and no one will see them.

Obviously if you have an emergency or chronic disease, a doctor can save your life.

Percentage wise I’d say 50-60% physicians are just trying to make a buck. Many of them end up this way after burning out though.

Doctors and lawyers wrote:

What percentage of these jobs are like this?

23.7%.

oldhead wrote:

Attending MDs are almost all one type of person-- academically smart person who is good at school wants to make a lot of money. The most sought-after residencies are different surgery positions (actual gunners with their foot on the gas THROUGH med school) and dermatology (people who pretended to care until the moment they got accepted and now want to make 250k and go home at 3pm)

For non-surgical stuff, they will 99% of the time simply prescribe the medicine that purports to stop the signs and symptoms you are experiencing. Which is what you could have done yourself, if you had the authority to do so. They will even leave it up to the pharmacist to determine if it's actually safe for you to take. They do not have the least bit of curiosity about you or your health.

Haha. 100% truth.

Mostly False,

Dermatologists make about 400K a year and leave at 5 pm. #truth

General surgery is less competitive than internal medicine subspecialties.

If you know how to treat your own cancer w herbs and spices, more power to you. You don’t need to see a doctor.

oldhead wrote:

The most sought-after residencies are different surgery positions (actual gunners with their foot on the gas THROUGH med school) and dermatology (people who pretended to care until the moment they got accepted and now want to make 250k and go home at 3pm)

Ugh. I know one dermatologist personally. He's probably the most self-absorbed person I know and uses Dr. in his instagram handle (for reference, I'm also a friend of a cardiologist and he does not behave this way). He shills creams and fillers/botox online and invests in these "freeze off the fat" devices. I'm sure he makes great money but if I want a mole checked out, I know I'm avoiding him entirely.

Doctors and lawyers wrote:

I delt with a few doctors and lawyers that are con men. Double billing you, changing outrageous fee's, and tricking you into needing test that are worthless. And lawyers calling you to chat or calling you in to their office to run up the bill. And way overstating what they did, so they can rip every dollar out of your retainer, so they can ask for more or in a personal injury case getting every dollar they can for themselves, all the while telling you they care about your well being and health. They aren't professionals! It's a sales business and they are basically sales men and women. Nothing wrong with being a sales man, but not if you are pretending to be a lawyer or doctor. What percentage of these jobs are like this?

In my experience you have to scramble just to find *any* professional *and* utilitarian services who might not gouge deeply! I did my own divorce and personal health directive and use the V.A. for serious health matters--but even they don't give a break on dental, vision, or hearing unless it's related to major organ disease or injury. But the biggest capitalistic opportunists have been repair persons, plumbers, mechanics, electricians and on and on. Yes, I know good and fair experts and service people exist, but outside family members and friends I personally have to go through a system of vetting and searching to find someone who's not going to t a ke me to the cleaners. Docs and legal eagles are not alone in the assault on your pocket book.

asdf34ts wrote:

Lawyers? 90%

Doctors 70%

Dentists 85%

dentists are the highest, no doubt.

85% is too high, but I have met nothing but grasping dentists. The guys and girls who use scare tactics to try to get you to do expensive procedures.

I have dealt with one lawyer in my life and he ripped me off. I was arrested. I met with a lawyer for a "free consultation." I hired him and gave him $1500. He mailed off a pre-written, fill in the blank letter. The DA decided they were not going to file charges and it was just going away. I asked for my money back. He said he needed to hold on to it for a year, to make sure they didn't actually end up filing charges. A year passed and I asked for a refund. He said he'd have to get his accountant to write up a bill and find out how much was remaining. He refunds me like $87 and says that he had like an hour on writing the letter and he had to make 3 trips out to the courthouse in the next city over and the entire thing was eaten up on drive time.

I found out later that he was going through a divorce and had major money issues going on.

Live a way of life so that you don’t ever see a doctor or a lawyer for personal reasons.