Scott Fauble leaves NAZ

shootpost wrote:

shootpost wrote:

It is funny because I was never particularly impressed with their training for a 2:09 guy. It seemes solid and consistent but nothing spectacular which is what marathoners need.

Running 20 miles at 6:00 pace is a 2 hour long run and nothing spectacular. Especially when you can race a marathon at 4:55 pace.

To add- I love that Scott Fauble posts everything to strava. That is great for the sport.

He runs a few peak weeks at 100 mpw. but a lot of weeks in the 80-90mpw range. Again for a marathon that is nothing crazy impressive. Just solid. I would expect more.

Well a lot of these long runs have workouts embedded in them so It's not just 20 miles at 6:00 pace. I believe most of these are at 7,000ft so that also adds some stress.

When Martin Hehir was on the final surge podcast he said that every workout with Ben was hard and that he had to get up for each one. He said that the workouts were higher in volume than what he was used to as well.

I could be wrong but from the way these guys talk about it, the long runs seem hard.

Marty left to go to Med School.

Exhibit #7348 why the US can't compete with the marathon development in Japan. It helps/hinders the Faubles and Hehirs of the world that the fanbase still craps its collective pants en masse over 2:08+, we have wholly middling expectations.

Agree, Kenyans routinely do 30-40k hard at 7,000+ft. Many miles close to 5:00 min/mile.

Nothing special in the NAZ program. There is world class, and USA class. The difference is stark.

shootpost wrote:

Gentleman Savage wrote:

Exhibit #7348 why the US can't compete with the marathon development in Japan. It helps/hinders the Faubles and Hehirs of the world that the fanbase still craps its collective pants en masse over 2:08+, we have wholly middling expectations.

Agree, Kenyans routinely do 30-40k hard at 7,000+ft. Many miles close to 5:00 min/mile.

Nothing special in the NAZ program. There is world class, and USA class. The difference is stark.

To clarify. I am not critiquing their training. Just thought I saw a trend of these bigger workouts and the people on the team being tired. It seemed like that was the case with Hehir.

Scott Fauble is a product of Ben Rosario.

No Rosario and there would be no Scott Fauble.

The fact that Fauble does not understand this shows his arrogance. He will never run sub 2:10 again.

But it looks like I’m probably wrong! Sorry Scott!

Ganbatte wrote:

July 31st - 22 miles with 3 mile progression at the end

August 4th - 18 miles - 40x400m

August 8th - 18 miles

August 18th - 23 miles with a push at the end

August 28th - 23 miles - 4 miles @ marathon, 10 miles @ 6 min, 4 miles hard

August 29th - 8 miles - "This might have been harder than yesterday" - Scott

September 4th - 16 miles - 10 miles @ 6 min, 4 @ 5:10 - "Not Ideal, glute thing popped, Pulled plug early" - Scott

September 11th - 26.2 miles - 17.5 easy, then a lil fartlek.

September 18th - 19 miles - 14 miles @ 5:08

September 19th - 8 miles - "Recovering" - Scott

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Anybody who looks at these workouts and thinks they are way too difficult for full time pros trying to compete with the world's best knows little to nothing about elite marathoning. Excluding 40x400 (um, why?) This looks like the long run calendar of a 2:15 marathoner, not a group trying to put guys on an Olympic team; at least not one in North America.

Ganbatte wrote:

https://twitter.com/scottfaubs/status/1473021088619581443?s=21

But it looks like I’m probably wrong! Sorry Scott!

Ganbatte stays home devastated!

Fauble’s career ended when Rupp sat at the starting line in Atlanta LOL

Ganbatte wrote:

https://twitter.com/scottfaubs/status/1473021088619581443?s=21

But it looks like I’m probably wrong! Sorry Scott!

Some people here are jerks, but isn't noise and speculation better than nobody giving a crap? At least people are interested enough to speculate...

pumpkin man wrote:

Ganbatte wrote:

https://twitter.com/scottfaubs/status/1473021088619581443?s=21

But it looks like I’m probably wrong! Sorry Scott!

Some people here are jerks, but isn't noise and speculation better than nobody giving a crap? At least people are interested enough to speculate...

Despite the reputation. There are alot of people here who aren't idiots. And there is no secret to running.

When we can see your entire training log, and your career progression, training wise we know alot. Probably just is hurt because he doesn't like the truth people are saying.

Why can't he just believe in himself. Why would you want to waste your life thinking about an average runner. Kudos to him but why? I read these inane posts and get sucked in so I guess I am the fool.