Admittedly a Boomer here, well not by definition, I’m 3 years older than the oldest Millenials but a Boomer when it comes to music.
I listen to very little current/pop music. I have no musical ability or education, but I can see that Billie Eilish is very talented. I don’t really listen to her music, but I can appreciate it.
Jogger262 wrote:
Admittedly a Boomer here, well not by definition, I’m 3 years older than the oldest Millenials but a Boomer when it comes to music.
I listen to very little current/pop music. I have no musical ability or education, but I can see that Billie Eilish is very talented. I don’t really listen to her music, but I can appreciate it.
I'll also throw in Sting. Sting would be another person who's a hero. The music he's created over the years, I don't really listen to it, but the fact that he's making it, I respect that.
Old Timey Guy wrote:
Wuzzle Wuzzle4 wrote:
lol this is the ultimate BOOMER thread. Stick to your old man classic rock.
Ellish doesn't need you to pay attention to her (and that is problem the real issue. ya'll are irrelevant)
Actually if you really knew anything about Eilish, you would know that she has an unusually large number of older adult fans. She’s discussed this publicly more than a few times. She says she’s flattered. For some reason us old guys are really attracted to her music.
I was clearly speaking about the old farts IN THIS THREAD writing her off as a no-talent millenial.
Dude, not everything is an argument
This is Jim Kiler wrote:
Wuzzle Wuzzle4 wrote:
boomer is a state of mind, boomer.
You clearly are
State runner-up
Still record holder at my HS
D1
Model wife
Million dollar house
More than that in the bank
Yep, I guess.
you forgot Sub 4 miler and astronaut.
Nope.
4:07, and not an astronaut, but I am profiled in a chapter of a book.
The Gallant Pig Man wrote:
She's not "barely singing"; she has a great voice and sense of harmony.
The songs I've heard can beat be described as "rythmic speaking". I'm not sure what the technical definition of singing is, but I don't believe it would qualify.
Plague on Wheels wrote:
T n A wrote:
Ha ha Beatles connection... there is no Beatles connection. She probably was asked about her influences in an interview one time and gave the same answer everyone else does.
Yes, there is a "Beatles connection". If you don't believe me, take this quote from Paul McCartney's daughter:
“but I think that there’s a lot of beauty in the arrangements of her music, the harmonizing and the structure, that’s heavily influenced by The Beatles’ writing and work. [She has] a strong message of identity and staying true to yourself, never compromising. That’s something The Beatles did too.”
And more from that article:
“It was the Beatles who inspired them to begin writing their own songs,” Maggie shared with Variety in December last year. “Because the class was for kids,” she continued, “I had to simplify it: Here’s ‘I Want to Hold Your Hand’, let’s give these pieces of the song a name. The class was just an hour a week for 10 weeks or so — but Finneas was like [mimes ‘Eureka!’ moment], and in a few months he formed a band. All I had to teach him was the basics, and he immediately got it — and the same with Billie.”
The Beatles connection stretches further back. Appearing on late-night television host James Corden’s popular Carpool Karaoke segment last December, Billie strummed ukulele while singing a snippet of the chorus to the Beatles’ ‘I Will’. The White Album number was the first song she ever learned. Eilish shared that she had been singing it since she was six.
Billie’s co-writer, producer, best friend, and brother Finneas shares his sister’s’ enthusiasm for the Fab Four. “The Beatles in all respects are my favourite artists ever,” he enthused to website Music All Access in 2016.
Finneas has also shed light on how Billie and he were first exposed to the Beatles. “Our dad would make these mix CDs,” he shared with Atwood Magazine in 2018. “Whenever we had to drive anywhere, we’d listen to mix CDs that were music that dad loved when he was growing up, and music that he’d just discovered. There was a really broad gamut of music that was current at the time, like a lot of Avril Lavigne, and then a lot of the Beatles.”
-In a recent interview with radio DJ Howard Stern Paul McCartney revealed he and Billie had recently crossed paths.
-Eilish is again collaborating with Stella McCartney.
Stella then acknowledged that the music itself may be different. “There’s obviously a modernity to Billie’s work,” she stated, “but I think that there’s a lot of beauty in the arrangements of her music, the harmonizing and the structure, that’s heavily influenced by The Beatles’ writing and work. [She has] a strong message of identity and staying true to yourself, never compromising. That’s something The Beatles did too.”
So she listened to the Beatles growing up, learned to play a few of their songs, and correctly determined that they were a good band. Just like millions of others did.
That does not, by some imagined connection, make her music any good.
Cancun Cruz wrote:
The songs I've heard can beat be described as "rythmic speaking". I'm not sure what the technical definition of singing is, but I don't believe it would qualify.
Well, you're wrong. Sorry! There are elements of "rhythmic speaking" in some of her songs (the kids these days call it "rapping", fyi) but she's obviously singing in all of them. You can't harmonize like she does if you're rapping.
So she is basically the musical equivalent of an out of shape hobby jogger. Plenty of people like her but doesn’t mean she is good or has talent.
Have to imagine 10 years from now a few people will be laughing about that time they defended her “talent” on a message board. I can hear them saying I can’t believe I used to like this crap.
You may have made this thread 9 months ago:
https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=10423964#10424221
If not, here's the thread where they're already discussing this exact topic.
This is Jim Kiler wrote:
The Millennial generation is obsessed with gender-neutral dumpy, perennially-stoned indifferent people.
They have a belief that Boomers have shafted them, as they can't buy a house for $20K any more like their parents did even though they were paid maybe $8K annually to sell door-to-door, and they're protesting by turning off their brains, spending money on stupid stuff like the latest iPhone and lattes three times a day, while putting that $100/mo. into the market would make them millions inside of ten years.
Seems they're waiting around for everyone else to die, so they can take control, but they seem to forget there are generations behind them, that know they're stupid.
I love posts like this because it shows how out of touch older people are. This dude says you used to be able to buy a house for 20k on only 8k salary but he can’t even do the math to realize that’s 40% of the value of the home. Meanwhile today the median home price is 400k and median salary is in the 30’s.
In the same post he thinks 100 bucks a month in the stock market will make millions within 10 years but even at 15% interest that only comes out to like $28k.
But yeah buddy, it’s definitely the Starbucks…
I know you’re just trolling but could you imagine for a second that some people are just not into the same things as you? Isn’t that what makes humanity what it is? Instead of just going, “oh ya, there’s people with different tastes and styles than me, that’s cool” you decide to try to crap on other people.
I imagine your post shows a lot more about the type of person you are and a lot less about the type of person that listens to pop music.
I have no idea who she is so she can't be very popular. I also haven't listened to the radio in a decade. Satellite and MP3 only for me.
fheirurhb wrote:
I have no idea who she is so she can't be very popular. I also haven't listened to the radio in a decade. Satellite and MP3 only for me.
I’m genuinely curious of the purpose of your post? You didn’t answer the guys question or even attempt to. You just decided to let the world know you are too cool for the radio and claim to not know who the person in question is.
Sometimes people just need to learn to just shut the f up…
The Gallant Pig Man wrote:
Cancun Cruz wrote:
The songs I've heard can beat be described as "rythmic speaking". I'm not sure what the technical definition of singing is, but I don't believe it would qualify.
Well, you're wrong. Sorry! There are elements of "rhythmic speaking" in some of her songs (the kids these days call it "rapping", fyi) but she's obviously singing in all of them. You can't harmonize like she does if you're rapping.
No need to apologize, I haven't seen any evidence that I'm wrong. I have yet to hear singing in any of her songs. I'm familiar with rap, but this isn't it.
Exstar wrote:
This thread is making me look at more of her stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GJWxDKyk3AGood poetry.
Artistic
Good unique style
I am a boomer and this is favourite song ATM.
The Gallant Pig Man wrote:
I don't really "get" it either. But the songs I am familiar with seem a little bit more interesting than most other pop music. She's not "barely singing"; she has a great voice and sense of harmony. The softness of it right in your ear can trigger that ASMR feeling, which I think might be part of the reason why she's so popular. Her brother produces all her sh*t and seems to be quite talented, too. Bad Guy and Therefore I Am have pretty catchy beats, imo.
Dr. Bob Bratton wrote:
With shows like The Voice, instrumental music is dead.
Not popular =/ dead. You just need to go looking for it.
"{A}ll her sh*t...." Wow, what articulation! You should consider writing as a career.
snowdays wrote:
Bra-ket wrote:
Her success solely comes from the fact that she looks/dresses like "that vaguely white trash girl you went to high school with", she is attractive in a "works at a weed dispensary" kind of way. She's supposed to remind you of the girl from your high school that would make off color jokes along with the boys. Not that you ever wanted to be with her, but you probably could've if you tried. I don't think that her or her handlers are aware of this.
bra-ket is the only guy who should be allowed to make cultural commentary on this website
Why, because he uses "white trash" - a racist and classist expression?
Plague on Wheels wrote:
All the haters in this post are completely wrong, or have never even listened to Billie Eilish music other than overhearing a few seconds of it on the radio as they drive to Home Depot.
I'm a mid 40's male, and somehow I'm blown away by Billie Eilish's music. I'm not typically into pop music, but seriously, give her top songs a serious listen. Find some of the youtube videos of her brother and her producing the music in their childhood bedroom. Its totally unique stuff, and the talent here is unmistakable. Her celebrity is totally warranted.
Please pinpoint the hate that was expressed in this thread before your post above. I don't think I saw any hate.
josh1988 wrote:
fheirurhb wrote:
I have no idea who she is so she can't be very popular. I also haven't listened to the radio in a decade. Satellite and MP3 only for me.
I’m genuinely curious of the purpose of your post? You didn’t answer the guys question or even attempt to. You just decided to let the world know you are too cool for the radio and claim to not know who the person in question is.
Sometimes people just need to learn to just shut the f up…
It proves she isn't popular because truly popular musicians (Elton John, Sting, Any Beatle, etc) everyone has heard of including my 95byear old grandma. If I haven't heard of them they aren't popular therefore there can not be a reason for their popularity.
Keep up.
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