With the Michigan school shooting this morning with 3 dead and 6 injured, at what point should a parent be held in partial blame?
Any culpability?
None?
With the Michigan school shooting this morning with 3 dead and 6 injured, at what point should a parent be held in partial blame?
Any culpability?
None?
How about the culpability of the females who mold these boys into what they are through systematic and relentless rejection?
We are a product of our environment. Parenting or lack thereof provides the foundation for children's personalities and character. Some parents can even have good intentions but bad results with their kids. No parent is perfect but there's many incompetent ones. Out of wedlock children is also a massive issue because parental separation and turmoil causes adverse childhood experiences for children and emotional stunting or neglect. A child needs a competent mother and father figure to thrive as an adult.
most recent shootings wrote:
With the Michigan school shooting this morning with 3 dead and 6 injured, at what point should a parent be held in partial blame?
Any culpability?
None?
Gun manufacturers and retailers or GTFO
blood on their hands wrote:
How about the culpability of the females who mold these boys into what they are through systematic and relentless rejection?
The child of a single mother is generally a poorly behaved child. Especially with the child being a male, they will not respect the mothers authority as a single parent. This leads to a plethora of complications. The mother should have done a better job selecting her partner but she was likely attracted to a man who's a loser and did not want to take care of his kid. The cycle continues and her child will likely have offspring which are also problematic to society.
Deer fellow LRC liberty-minded patriots,
The following is the LRC, NRA, Dana Loesch, Fox News, Tea Party, Freedom Caucus, D.J. Trump, RNC, Brietbart, Beijing and Kremlin sanctioned algorithm for assigning motive to a shooting:
1) First step, determine the perpetrator's religion. If they're Muslim you're done! They are a radical Islamic terrorist motivated by their religion (which should heretofore be referred to as a pseudo-religion, political movement, or "death cult" in any discussion). The solution to the problem in these cases is to ban Islam and restrict immigration. It's irrelevant if the perp is a US born citizen or if said ban doesn't even include the perps or perps family country of origin. The perps religion is the ONLY possible explanation for their motives and the above ban is the ONLY viable solution to prevent future attacks. If the perp is not Muslim move to step two in the algorithm.
2) Second step, if a non-Muslim committed the heinous act determine the perpetrator's race. If they are black you're done! The cause of the shooting is the lack or a moral compass in the black community, blacks inherent violent nature, Antifa, or black lives matter. The only possible solutions are harsher prison sentences, for-profit charter schools, reinstatement of school prayer, and tax cuts. If the perp is neither Muslim or black, move to step three.
3) Step three, is the shooter Hispanic by chance? If yes, the solutions are to build a MASSIVE border wall across our entire Southern border, permanently station US infantry / artillery / special forces along the US-Mexico border, end chain migration, deportation of all DACA recipients, and mandatory English education...TALK ‘Murican dammit! If the shooter is not Hispanic move to the next step below.
4) Is the shooter a teenager or a college kid? If yes, you’re done! The cause of the shooting is the nanny state, generational laziness, violent video games & movies, pre-marital sex, porn, and the absence of God (The Christian God) in schools. We need to ban all porn, ban all violent video games & movies, teach abstinence-only sex education, bring back school prayer, and slash all entitlement programs (except for Medicare and social security for the elderly...).
5) Can it be proven that the shooter is a registered Democrat? If yes, you’re done! The cause is the violent political ideology of the left. Didn’t you know the Nazis were Social Democrats? Didn’t you know that the Democratic Party of the early 20th century was pro-segregation? The only solution to save our Democracy is to have single party control of the Government and to make Trump & his family POTUS for life—that’s how you save Democracy!
6) Is the shooter a woman? If yes, this is a rare event but it the cause is the loss of family values, no fault divorce, legalized abortion, easy access to contraception, and women’s inability to handle work related stress. We need to ban all abortion, contraception, and divorce to prevent such incidents in the future.
7) This is the final step. In this step the perpetrator is a white male that may or may not be a Christian. In these cases (which are the majority) the only possible explanation is mental illness. In these cases it is way too soon to discuss doing anything! After all we cannot overreact to these situations by passing EXTREME new laws! The only option is to turn to prayer and realize that we are helpless to prevent further similar incidents. After some time for prayer and reflection, the only reasonable possible solution is to arm every man, woman, and child with large caliber firearms and mandate open carry at all times.
Please follow the above algorithm at all times to ensure a productive, reality based discussion of gun violence in America on the boards. That is all.
Thoughts & Prayers to the victims and their loved ones.
When will car manufacturers be held responsible for what happened in Waukesha
It's the gun's fault. Just like that SUV that ran over the dancing grannies. Maximum Overdrive bro.
most recent shootings wrote:
With the Michigan school shooting this morning with 3 dead and 6 injured, at what point should a parent be held in partial blame?
Any culpability?
None?
Hold God responsible.
Or America.
Or television.
Or the food he consumed.
Or the school.
The gunmaker.
His friends.
The victims.
All sorts of possibilities
This is always my favorite post on Letsrun. I don't know who created this, but they really understand life and are probably very successful and have 100s of million dollar cars and a 21 year old trophy wife for each of their 50 mansions, all in different resorts around the world.
Maybe, just maybe we have a gun problem?
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country
This is pretty funny considering that the mainstream media refuses to cover crimes committed by minorities and will quickly assign motives to white perpetrators and turn it into national news.
stating the obvious 2021 wrote:
Maybe, just maybe we have a gun problem?
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country
We had tons of guns in the early 1900s as well....no school shootings.
One big societal difference is broken families.
Dylan Roof - parents divcored
Adam Lanza - parents divorced
Elliot Rodger - parents divorced
Parkland shooter - divorced adopted mother
list goes on and on
This is the MSNBC Nytimes, Wapost algo
1. Is the shooter black? If Yes, its not a mass shooting, but "gang violence" or "dispute" and sent off the front page/nightly news. Blacks shooting people isn't really newsworthy since it happens so much in Chicago, Philly etc.
2. Is the shooter muslim? If Yes, proceed with following thematic response "Him being Muslim has NOTHING to be about this, this is a purely a gun/mental issue". If he shouted "Allah Akbhar" , proceed to ignore and gaslight.
3. Is the shooter hispanic? If Yes, don't worry, he's basically white (many hispanics refer to themselves as white anyways). Refer to him as "white" in all print and broadcast media.
4. Is he white? If yes, proceed with following messaging "We have a white male gun violence problem in the USA" "Another white troubled kid committing a mass shooting - when will it end?" "NRA and White people are a dangerous problem in the USA"
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stating the obvious 2021 wrote:
Maybe, just maybe we have a gun problem?
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-countryWe had tons of guns in the early 1900s as well....no school shootings.
One big societal difference is broken families.
Dylan Roof - parents divcored
Adam Lanza - parents divorced
Elliot Rodger - parents divorced
Parkland shooter - divorced adopted mother
list goes on and on
What else do they have in common? They are "incels" who have suffered endless abuse from females and been deprived of basic human needs all their lives. Then people are surprised when they snap...
Lets ask what the science says...
Science says parenting has little relative contribution on child psychology. Sure, parents are responsible for making their child go to school and do certain things but parents do not have that much control over how their child will turn out and no parent probably knows what the optimal way to treat a child would be. To make parents responsible for these things in the sense of blame is just a gross exaggeration, a gross scapegoating. Its not fair.
WordOnAWang wrote:
Lets ask what the science says...
Science says parenting has little relative contribution on child psychology. Sure, parents are responsible for making their child go to school and do certain things but parents do not have that much control over how their child will turn out and no parent probably knows what the optimal way to treat a child would be. To make parents responsible for these things in the sense of blame is just a gross exaggeration, a gross scapegoating. Its not fair.
Blatantly ignorant and wrong post.
i always find it funny how people are happy to defer to experts when it comes to something like physics, chemistry, engineering, but when it comes to human behaviour they all seem to think their anecdotal intuitions must be correct.
WordOnAWang wrote:
Lets ask what the science says...
Science says parenting has little relative contribution on child psychology. Sure, parents are responsible for making their child go to school and do certain things but parents do not have that much control over how their child will turn out and no parent probably knows what the optimal way to treat a child would be. To make parents responsible for these things in the sense of blame is just a gross exaggeration, a gross scapegoating. Its not fair.
Look up single mother stats. Its sobering. Parents absolutely matter.
Statistics about single mothers are convoluted by a whole bunch of things such as socioeconomic status, heritable psychological confounds etc that it is difficult to form strong conclusions about it and it can be difficult to study thoroughly while the statistics that people read about single mothers are probably not the right ones to deduce how much effect these parenting things have. No doubt I think the single mother thing will have an effect which is probably at least partly down to parenting but then again it may not be a big effect when you look at the appropriate statistics.
On the otherhand, when you look at studies that explicitly look at the effect of parenting on children, the overall effect sizes across the literature seem to be quite small. This isnt because parents specifically have little effect on child development but because there are no environmental factors that do have big effects. all environmental effects on people seem to be quite small compared to the overall picture of all the things that affect a persons life which also means that realistically parenting only accounts for a small part of how children turn out.
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