Honest question: do you see any point in trying to reduce Covid transmission anymore?

colder and wiser wrote:

Having Covid really sucked. I felt like crap for 2 weeks and running was awful for the next 9 months.

Dying of Covid is an awful way to go. My cousin's husband was on a ventilator for a month before he died. Aged 50.

So, yes, I see a point in trying to stop the spread of Covid, as do most people who aren't sociopaths, especially because most steps are pretty simple:

* get vaccinated

* avoid long, up-close contact indoors

* wear a mask when that's unavoidable

It wont prevent all spread, but it seems to be pretty effective in combination.

Excellent advice.

My 20yo got covid pre vaccine (last spring). His sense of smell is still a mess.

My 80 yo in laws got covid recently (vaccinated early summer, Moderna 2x, no booster yet). Mild illness for both.

People can take their chances.

Boston guy wrote:

And kids shouldn’t be forced to mask at all. They have the lowest risk and will suffer from restriction the longest in this futile attempt to control the virus.

Well, then they can get the shot and protect themselves and those around them if they don't want to wear masks.

curiousoldster wrote:

Boston guy wrote:

And kids shouldn’t be forced to mask at all. They have the lowest risk and will suffer from restriction the longest in this futile attempt to control the virus.

Well, then they can get the shot and protect themselves and those around them if they don't want to wear masks.

Yes, totally agree, except that current rules state that everyone has to mask regardless of vax status. Kids are masked for the entire school day, vax or no.

With the news coming out that omicron has extremely mild symptoms we absolutely need to stop. This is the variant we’ve been waiting for.

You wont get an answer wrote:

With the news coming out that omicron has extremely mild symptoms we absolutely need to stop. This is the variant we’ve been waiting for.

Totally agree, so long as the variant is indeed mild and we don't have 2,000+ people dying a day for the third time

Harambe wrote:

Well, rampant transmission in low vaxxed areas (sub saharan Africa) likely spawned Omicron. So yeah, I'd say there's a benefit to keeping cases low.

And, yet, the health minister of Botswana immediately dismissed the “it was created in a HIV immune improvised patient” thesis and said it was discovered in filled vaxxed international citizens visiting Botswana.

Why try? wrote:

Nothing we do has any more than a marginal impact on Covid spread. At what point do we just accept that we're not going to control Covid? We can reduce risk by getting vaccinated, but reducing transmission seems to be a fool's errand.

Get your shots, but otherwise I think we should just live life as normal and accept that every single person in the world is going to get Covid eventually.

OP, it’s time to “let it rip” and has been for a long time. Some culling of the forest is necessary. Forget all of this crap about HCQ and IVM and all of the other meds pro-vaxxers would attribute to “quack” doctors. That public health messaging early on didn’t promote vit D3, zinc, and quercetin uptake is almost criminal, especially before we had the vaccines. FauxChi is a fukking murderer truthfully. Vit D helps the vaccines work better too. Yet, silence from the “scientists.” Well, maybe not so much from the posters who got a 4 on the AP bio exam in high school, who are resident experts here.

Covidiocy wrote:

Harambe wrote:

Well, rampant transmission in low vaxxed areas (sub saharan Africa) likely spawned Omicron. So yeah, I'd say there's a benefit to keeping cases low.

And, yet, the health minister of Botswana immediately dismissed the “it was created in a HIV immune compromised patient” thesis and said it was discovered in filled vaxxed international citizens visiting Botswana.

Covidiocy wrote:

And, yet, the health minister of Botswana immediately dismissed the “it was created in a HIV immune compromised patient” thesis and said it was discovered in FULLY vaxxed international citizens visiting Botswana.

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So, if I got a 5 on the AP Bio exam I would be an expert? You seem to think your an expert though. Do you have any qualifications at all? Are you an expert on vitamins?

Nope, it doesn’t qualify you at all. That is my point. Minimally, one should have experience in microbiology or immunology, possess an advanced degree, and have exposure to a lab, clinical, or hospital setting involving infectious disease to comment on this at all. This is my CV. It helps to have training in cardiology and other facets of internal medicine.

F off w your vitamin comments. You are just another member of the peanut gallery.

Covidiocy wrote:

Harambe wrote:

Well, rampant transmission in low vaxxed areas (sub saharan Africa) likely spawned Omicron. So yeah, I'd say there's a benefit to keeping cases low.

And, yet, the health minister of Botswana immediately dismissed the “it was created in a HIV immune improvised patient” thesis and said it was discovered in filled vaxxed international citizens visiting Botswana.

I wonder who is getting tested more... locals or wealthy international tourists?

If it was from international travelers, why was it discovered in sub-Saharan Africa when the vast, vast majority of sequencing surveillance is in the West?

You guys just desperately want to believe ANYTHING that is 'vax bad.' It's really damaging your credibility.

I was saying for months that new variants would come from undervaxxed places with high transmission because... that's how it works.

Covidiocy wrote:

Nope, it doesn’t qualify you at all. That is my point. Minimally, one should have experience in microbiology or immunology, possess an advanced degree, and have exposure to a lab, clinical, or hospital setting involving infectious disease to comment on this at all. This is my CV. It helps to have training in cardiology and other facets of internal medicine.

F off w your vitamin comments. You are just another member of the peanut gallery.

Bro, you have used the term 'allopathic medicine' to describe modern evidence based practices (compared to your favored 'just-so-story' polypharmacy and faith-based supplement guzzling). Anyone who does that has left their conventional training, no matter how lengthy or impressive, far behind in favor of contrarian dogma, confirmation bias, and likely a little bit of grifting for personal gain.

Basically, someone with AP Biology training and an open mind is going to have a much better handle on the facts here. Everything you read gets clearly filtered through your massively biased priors in the most unscientific of ways.

People have had plenty of time to get vaccinated if they wanted to.

We should just forget about masks and live life again normally and if it spreads

, it spreads.

coaching math wrote:

I would like the government to scare everyone back into their homes again.

It was better with no traffic, trails to myself, low gas prices, etc…

Let me start here:

Go back into your homes or die of covid! Did that work?

It would be great if we just went back to no congregating - walking, running, biking and active activity only.

Why try? wrote:

Nothing we do has any more than a marginal impact on Covid spread. At what point do we just accept that we're not going to control Covid? We can reduce risk by getting vaccinated, but reducing transmission seems to be a fool's errand.

Get your shots, but otherwise I think we should just live life as normal and accept that every single person in the world is going to get Covid eventually.

I nominate this for post of the year.

Mr Why Try is 100% correct.

Why try? wrote:

This is Jim Kiler wrote:

Covid continues to thrive in the US not because some people won't get vaccinated, but because a lot of people who should get vaccinated listen to media that makes them distrust vaccinations and science.

“In October, 25 out of every 100,000 residents of heavily Trump counties died from Covid, more than three times higher than the rate in heavily Biden counties (7.8 per 100,000). October was the fifth consecutive month that the percentage gap between the death rates in Trump counties and Biden counties widened.”

To which I say: so what? Vaccine hesitancy is a global phenomenon. It's not going to change because Fauci makes one more talk show appearance to push shots. People who want a shot have gotten one. They are protected.

Quit demanding everyone wear a mask out of obnoxious liberal paternalism and let people's lives get back to normal.

I like the German and Austrian model - unvaccinated people can't leave their homes. Much like with mandatory k-12 education, the government should make the choice for people too stupid to make the correct one.