Nothing we do has any more than a marginal impact on Covid spread. At what point do we just accept that we're not going to control Covid? We can reduce risk by getting vaccinated, but reducing transmission seems to be a fool's errand.
Get your shots, but otherwise I think we should just live life as normal and accept that every single person in the world is going to get Covid eventually.
Natural immunity is the best immunity. These people getting vaccinated over and over will have immune systems the equivalent of a person with HIV if they continue along with being duped by the pharmaceutical scheme. Couple that with a risk of cardio/heart issues or blood clotting or cancers from the drugs they call "vaccines"--they had to change the definition of vaccine just to administer these covid shots. Trouble is coming and big pharms escapes accountability and sneaks off to the bank vault. What a corrupt industry. Time to wake up.
I agree with the OP. People have had plenty of time to get vaccinated if they wanted to. We should just forget about masks and live life again normally and if it spreads, it spreads. The quicker it spreads the sooner it will be endemic. I have no sympathy for those who chose not to get vaccinated. They can live with the consequences. It's time for people to move on.
I say let it rip. Because it's going to anyway
I would like the government to scare everyone back into their homes again.
It was better with no traffic, trails to myself, low gas prices, etc…
Let me start here:
Go back into your homes or die of covid! Did that work?
Having Covid really sucked. I felt like crap for 2 weeks and running was awful for the next 9 months.
Dying of Covid is an awful way to go. My cousin's husband was on a ventilator for a month before he died. Aged 50.
So, yes, I see a point in trying to stop the spread of Covid, as do most people who aren't sociopaths, especially because most steps are pretty simple:
* get vaccinated
* avoid long, up-close contact indoors
* wear a mask when that's unavoidable
It wont prevent all spread, but it seems to be pretty effective in combination.
wuss alert No 1 wrote:
I say let it rip. Because it's going to anyway
Exactly. We're not "flattening the curve" anymore, we're just living in perpetual Covid purgatory. At this point, everyone who's gonna get vaccinated has done so, and everyone who's gotten vaccinated needs to accept the obvious reality that they are still going to "get" Covid, and it will be a mild cold.
Honestly, exposure is the only path forward right now.
colder and wiser wrote:
Having Covid really sucked. I felt like crap for 2 weeks and running was awful for the next 9 months.
Dying of Covid is an awful way to go. My cousin's husband was on a ventilator for a month before he died. Aged 50.
So, yes, I see a point in trying to stop the spread of Covid, as do most people who aren't sociopaths, especially because most steps are pretty simple:
* get vaccinated
* avoid long, up-close contact indoors
* wear a mask when that's unavoidable
It wont prevent all spread, but it seems to be pretty effective in combination.
Avoiding contact and wearing a mask are not permanent strategies. If you'e gotten vaccinated, you're extraordinarily unlikely to have any of the outcomes you've described. If you're not vaccinated, you're a dumba** and can deal with whatever happens to you.
If we'd just suggested people wear masks, clean up diets, and loose a few pounds, we'd be miles ahead.
Covid is a metabolic-disordered inflammatory disease. Don't be overly fat and unwell, and you're mostly good.
But no, we have to have a pill, or shot, to make everything well.
This is Jim Kiler wrote:
If we'd just suggested people wear masks, clean up diets, and loose a few pounds, we'd be miles ahead.
Wearing a mask is not, and SHOULD NOT, be an expectation for participating in everyday life.
Why try? wrote:
Nothing we do has any more than a marginal impact on Covid spread. At what point do we just accept that we're not going to control Covid? We can reduce risk by getting vaccinated, but reducing transmission seems to be a fool's errand.
Get your shots, but otherwise I think we should just live life as normal and accept that every single person in the world is going to get Covid eventually.
There's some truth to what you say. It doesn't feel like beside getting Americans boosted/their first shot and getting vaccines to the developing world, all of the other stuff is kinda shuffling deck chairs.
Fretting over case numbers and outcomes for unvaxxed people (who have access, but just don't want it) isn't going to accomplish much. The worst part is really if hospital strain comes into play, but again putting in public health measures that they won't obey isn't going to accomplish much.
Covid continues to thrive in the US not because some people won't get vaccinated, but because a lot of people who should get vaccinated listen to media that makes them distrust vaccinations and science.
“In October, 25 out of every 100,000 residents of heavily Trump counties died from Covid, more than three times higher than the rate in heavily Biden counties (7.8 per 100,000). October was the fifth consecutive month that the percentage gap between the death rates in Trump counties and Biden counties widened.”
Well, rampant transmission in low vaxxed areas (sub saharan Africa) likely spawned Omicron. So yeah, I'd say there's a benefit to keeping cases low.
Harambe wrote:
Well, rampant transmission in low vaxxed areas (sub saharan Africa) likely spawned Omicron. So yeah, I'd say there's a benefit to keeping cases low.
No, Omicron was detected first in the Netherlands. We have no idea where it originated, but to pin it on Africa is incorrect.
Unclear, but variants will continue to sprout up as long as vaccines are not prevalent in a huge part of the world. We think the USA is bad for this but South Africa two weeks ago was turning down and wasting vaccines with only 1/3 of the population inoculated. Still, there're many countries that unlike that just need more vaccine access.
Why try? wrote:
colder and wiser wrote:
Having Covid really sucked. I felt like crap for 2 weeks and running was awful for the next 9 months.
Dying of Covid is an awful way to go. My cousin's husband was on a ventilator for a month before he died. Aged 50.
So, yes, I see a point in trying to stop the spread of Covid, as do most people who aren't sociopaths, especially because most steps are pretty simple:
* get vaccinated
* avoid long, up-close contact indoors
* wear a mask when that's unavoidable
It wont prevent all spread, but it seems to be pretty effective in combination.
Avoiding contact and wearing a mask are not permanent strategies. If you'e gotten vaccinated, you're extraordinarily unlikely to have any of the outcomes you've described. If you're not vaccinated, you're a dumba** and can deal with whatever happens to you.
Ding ding ding, we have a winner.
But I agree with whoever above mentioned natural immunity.
Covid is going to do what Covid is going to do. ALL you can do is make yourself better equipped to handle Covid. If you need a vaccine to get to that point, do that. Or, don't be fat/skinny fat, and be otherwise healthy. You'll have cold-like symptoms for a day or two.
This is Jim Kiler wrote:
But I agree with whoever above mentioned natural immunity.
Covid is going to do what Covid is going to do. ALL you can do is make yourself better equipped to handle Covid. If you need a vaccine to get to that point, do that. Or, don't be fat/skinny fat, and be otherwise healthy. You'll have cold-like symptoms for a day or two.
Exactly. We have to abandon futile and damaging community-level mitigation measures. They don't work. They infuriate everyone. They dilute the "vaccination is the only thing that actually matters" message.
No.
"Honest question: do you see any point in trying to reduce Covid transmission anymore?"
Yes. There are millions of unvaccinated people out there and I don't want them to get sick or crippled or dead.