Documentary on how the work-from-home trend is destroying Crested Butte, CO

jamin wrote:

I heard Emma Hotburn lives in this town

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhElNHGN9KY&ab_channel=VICENews

Crusted Butt?

Stage 5 Clinger wrote:

Crusted Butt?

Is that one of the pizza's they churn out 250 pieces an hour?

Me and my wife have taken care of 3 of our 4 parents tell they passed away (they lived with us). I would have been much better off paying my own medical bills and providing all my income if I could have kept all I've paid into ss etc and invested it on my own. Your numbers don't add up in many ways.

Boulder bro wrote:

xhe7ebeu wrote:

Gentrification is good. The key is to be a homeowner before the gentrification starts. If you aren't you don't matter. The whole point of gentrification is to improve an area and reward the investors. If you own a home or property you win.

I'd love my home to double or triple in value, even with the tax hit. Only renters who don't really matter or outsiders looking to move in too late complain.

Boulder bro

Bedrooms are for people. Bedrooms up my bum

Kwanz-Anon wrote:

Koko the Gorilla wrote:

No, the pizza shop owner is an entrepreneur. The pizza guy is just a wage laborer with no skin in the game, who can move onto the next thing if his pizza gig doesn't pay the rent.

And guess what? The yuppies will make their own pizza! Making pizza isn't difficult turns out. And then the poor pizza guy will be out of a job anyhow.

If the pizza shop's labor pool can't afford to live there, then the shop owner will fail too. Do you really want small businesses and entrepreneurs to fail, just because you have a problem with "slackers" existing?

Businesses and entrepreneurs should fail if they are not providing something for which there is market demand. You don't have a right to succeed just because you are an "entrepreneur."

Can we ban this weasel yet?

People who live in these nice mountain towns must realize that they live in a nice place. If it’s a nice place and desirable, there will be rich people wanting to buy there.

Problem is, these young people who used to make a living being a ski bum, it’s not available anymore. They have to be like rest of us and live where there’s work and affordable. These ski bums need to get a life like rest of us instead of complaining and thinking they can get affordable housing at really beautiful areas of the country by being a restaurant cook.

I would love to just cook pizza and live comfortably at these mountain towns. I’m just not stupid enough to think that’s possible.

Anyways, now the rich people need to figure out how to cook their own pizza.

runnER/DR wrote:

You sure about all this income inequality? Have you actually tried to understand how much of a problem it is? You should challenge your views. You'll be surprised what you find.

nah i'm good. whatever your interpretation of the income inequality statistics is, is doesn't change the fact that people like the pizza guy from the video are becoming more and more common, all while the stock market consistently hits all time highs and the rich get richer. i'm sure you have some fun links to articles from forbes or something about how this isn't true and blah blah blah, but please don't think i would ever bother to read them. i know what i believe and i know what i feel. whether you think it reflects reality doesn't really matter to me beyond my feeling compelled to type out this screed on a running website.

The problem is that these ski towns can't survive without these ski bums.

It's not very likely that the $2 Million 2nd homeowner is doing some shifts at the pizza place. He couldn't handle the pressure of producing 250 pizzas in an hour anyway.

Nice. Im gonna go look at some CB real estate.

Thanks for shining a light on this great community, Vice!

jamb innnnn wrote:

Nice. Im gonna go look at some CB real estate.

Thanks for shining a light on this great community, Vice!

You maybe can afford a pizza there but that's about it.

Former ski bum wrote:

jamb innnnn wrote:

Nice. Im gonna go look at some CB real estate.

Thanks for shining a light on this great community, Vice!

You maybe can afford a pizza there but that's about it.

Could drain the equity in my house (maybe 250k?), sink another 100k cash and get a loan on the rest! Income is ~140k on my remote work. We'll get a pizza to celebrate, maybe just once tho! LoL

Ordered pizza in Vail/Breck a few times and its usually about $100 for 4 or 5 dudes. Those companies are making their nut.

Former ski bum wrote:

The problem is that these ski towns can't survive without these ski bums.

It's not very likely that the $2 Million 2nd homeowner is doing some shifts at the pizza place. He couldn't handle the pressure of producing 250 pizzas in an hour anyway.

That's the FREE ENTERPRISE SYSTEM.

he Ski Bums are still present. They just don't work at the establishment any longer. They're in living in the hotel working online building I-Phone Apps using Xcode for 5 times the money they received when they worked at the hotel.

The same is happening all across the world. The work-at-home, work-online model invented by Hollywood/Silicon Valley is now in every little village and small town on Earth.

CarlyRaeJepsensMalort wrote:this is why we need class consciousness to make a comeback here in burgerland.

What could possibly go wrong.

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The problem with lack of housing is recent in Crested Butte but cities like Aspen and Vail have been unaffordable to service workers for decades. Aspen today is much more expensive than CB. So where do those people working in upscale hotels and restaurants live? They live down the road in Basalt and Carbondale. And people working in Vail live in Edwards and Eagle. There are people working in Telluride that commute all the way from Montrose. People working in Park City commute from the SLC or Heber City.

Eventually, if Crested Butte continues to grow cheap housing will be built in Gunnison to provide for the workers. But because it is so isolated compared to towns along the I70 corridor or someplace like Park City it will remain a small-scale problem that gets attention on social media as an example of some new trend.

* I did not state numbers. I doubt you are a 1/2 billionaire or billionaire. Just say you do not like me stating taxes should be higher on your boss, the 1/2 billionaire or billionaire.

* You missed the point I made in regard my two multi-millionaire friends with their mothers in their nineties. You are using yourself as an example. My friends with their 90 plus year old mothers would 100% take care of their mothers sans social security & medicare. Now social security and medicare help. You say you took care of you your parents and wife's parents. Unless they were in U.S. with no legal documents, your parents and wife's parents may have stayed at your home, but their social security checks and medicare meant financially they were largely self sufficient.

* You say you would be better off without paying into social security and without you paying into medical care. Well, it is too soon to know. My friends with their 90 plus year old mothers, when both ladies were in their 20's, 30's & 40's they may have said: Social security is a racket. Medicare is a racket. I would be better off with my own investment account. I would be better off with my home medical savings account. Now that both ladies are in their nineties, they are receiving far more in benefits than they contributed. When social security began, the age to receive benefits was 65. U.S. citizens lived on average then to age 63. Have your kids or grandkids post on here after you are no longer with us. We will find out later if you would have done better without paying into social security and medicare. If you die at age 61 and work full time to age 61 without applying for S.S.I., you will be correct. If not ... . Well, you know.

* Public policy decisions are not recommended by economists based on the knowledge some people will die by age 61. Public policy recommendations by economists cannot be overly concerned with isolated anecdotal stories. Economists make policy recommendations to law makers stating what is best for the most people while hurting the fewest people. See my recommendation to raise taxes on 1/2 billionaire on up.

Economic theories aside people should be able to live near where they work. For some living means seasonally living six people in a two bedroom apartment so they can have max fresh powder days. For others, it is something more family oriented. The free market will sort this out.

rob riggles nanna wrote:

vaxxed&waxxed wrote:

Right wingers think it’s okay for corporations to steal labor & other materials

“Steal labor”…..uh, wut?

Apparently some dude clueless that real people want good jobs and benefits which corporations actually can offer.