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jamin wrote:
I heard Emma Hotburn lives in this town
Jamin, even for you, this is pathetic.
Oh no, there isn’t anyone to make rich people pizza. How will the world continue?
management wrote:
Oh no, there isn’t anyone to make rich people pizza. How will the world continue?
The world will continue once the poor have eaten the rich since there is no pizza left.
Koko the Gorilla wrote:
Kwanz-Anon wrote:
He's a small business owner. An entrepreneur. The lifeblood of the American economy!
Tell those businessmen/lawyers/engineers to make their own damn pizza and see how that goes over.
No, the pizza shop owner is an entrepreneur. The pizza guy is just a wage laborer with no skin in the game, who can move onto the next thing if his pizza gig doesn't pay the rent.
And guess what? The yuppies will make their own pizza! Making pizza isn't difficult turns out. And then the poor pizza guy will be out of a job anyhow.
If the pizza shop's labor pool can't afford to live there, then the shop owner will fail too. Do you really want small businesses and entrepreneurs to fail, just because you have a problem with "slackers" existing?
CarlyRaeJepsensMalort wrote:
Tatar makes a great point. when i said earlier in the thread we need class consciousness to make a comeback, i should have specified WORKING class consciousness. the wealthy have an extremely high level of class consciousness, as evidenced in the video by at least 3 of them showing up to complain at the city council meeting. whether they will admit it publicly or not they all know exactly how much exploitation of the working man is necessary for them to sustain their lavish lifestyles. they collude and conspire to make sure that exploitation continues unabated while also manipulating the media to get us all hooting and hollering about stupid social issues to distract us all from how much we are getting screwed.
There is class consciousness for the wealthy however there are divisions that can be exploited. Conservatism has always been a curious coalition of industrialists and landed gentry. This wasn't always the case, at the outset of the industrial revolution inherited money was opposed to capitalism because it created a new middle class which could and did threaten their supremacy. Think old money vs nouveau riche.
Nonetheless they adapted to the new reality but those divisions are still there. Speak to a small business owner that needs a premises and they'll tell you rent or mortgage on that building is a major reason they struggle to keep the business running. It's the same problem young people can't have children or buy houses anymore - the cost of putting a roof over your head is too high. The amount of money that's handed over by tenants is essentially a prohibitive tax on being a productive business.
A similar thing is happening to this ski resort. They can't get anyone to work at the business because of the cost to workers of living locally so they'll find jobs elsewhere. The people running the business don't necessarily have the same interests as the people who own the local housing market. If we can crack open the alliance of business owners and landlords, we stand a chance of actually sorting some of this out.
Not specifically only addressing Colorado ski resorts but to make U.S. better, taxes need to be raised on 1/2 billionaires and billionaires in U.S. Who cares if the wealth is from royal titles and inherited wealth or new capital, they all need to be taxed at a higher rate. Cutting their taxes as was done under Reagan, W. Bush and Trump and only slightly raised under Bill Clinton and Obama has not helped U.S. We do not have to worry in aggregate about 1/2 billionaires and billionaires fleeing U.S. They will complain and pay their taxes. Half billionaires & billionaires are not going to flee to Europe or Australia or New Zealand. A few will go to Underdeveloped Countries. Tell them, Good luck!
H.W. Bush also slightly raised taxes on 1/2 billionaires & billionaires in U.S.
In Southern California the undocumented have shifted to home web jobs in Big Data Scrapers, App Development, Bi-Lingual Help Desk, Genetics Investigations, Java Back End development, etc. The classes are online and anyone can learn if they put in the hard work. The shortage we have now of housekeepers, Taco Benders, Car Wash workers, etc. is permanent. They want to make money and feed their families.
rob riggles nanna wrote:
Dog Trainer Elite wrote:
And now the short sighted wealthy are struggling with the fact that the ski resorts may stay closed because no one wants to run the lifts, man the ticket booth, teach their crotchfruit, or make lattes, cocktails, and sandwiches for minimum wage. Plus, no low paid worker wants to commute an hour plus each way on icy roads to service the gentry. Oh, how I feel for the rich and the poor resort owners! If only they could afford a solution?
The resort ain’t closing homie. Hate to break to you.
I’ll bet you don’t complain about Biden, Obama, or the Clintons or Gore or Pelosi, or even old Bernie being rich and living large with lavish parties and servants scraping and bowing to all of them.
I don't complain. You can be rich AND be part of the solution. If we went straight conservative, we would have a dust bowl of nothing.
jamin wrote:
I heard Emma Hotburn lives in this town
Jamin, this is pathetic, even for you.
bigmig19 wrote:
I don't complain. You can be rich AND be part of the solution. If we went straight conservative, we would have a dust bowl of nothing.
How does that work?
Please teach us.
I want to be rich as well.
Kwanz-Anon wrote:
If the pizza shop's labor pool can't afford to live there, then the shop owner will fail too. Do you really want small businesses and entrepreneurs to fail, just because you have a problem with "slackers" existing?
So the market shouldn’t pick winners and losers? Maybe CB is too high end to support a pizza shop. Low income housing is just a subsidiary to the pizza shop owner.
Gentrification is good. The key is to be a homeowner before the gentrification starts. If you aren't you don't matter. The whole point of gentrification is to improve an area and reward the investors. If you own a home or property you win.
I'd love my home to double or triple in value, even with the tax hit. Only renters who don't really matter or outsiders looking to move in too late complain.
xhe7ebeu wrote:
Gentrification is good. The key is to be a homeowner before the gentrification starts. If you aren't you don't matter. The whole point of gentrification is to improve an area and reward the investors. If you own a home or property you win.
I'd love my home to double or triple in value, even with the tax hit. Only renters who don't really matter or outsiders looking to move in too late complain.
Your property taxes need to increase. Property taxes in U.S. are too low which encourages real estate speculation. You are talking about what is good for you and your family but not addressing what is best for society as a whole. This thread is about a micro issue, but addressing it means addressing what is best in aggregate for the entire nation, U.S. U.S. citizens need to be pigeon holed more in regard to tax policies. U.S. citizens need to be encouraged to invest more in debt markets (bonds) and equity markets (stocks) with tax policies and U.S. citizens need to be discouraged with tax policies from speculating in real estate. When investors buy more bonds than they usually would purchase, bonds go up in price and bond yields decrease. Good! When investors buy more stock than they usually would purchase, as long as no money is borrowed, good! The more equity increase in value, more private corporations go public, Initial Public Offering so there will always be cheap stocks. When 1/2 billionaires, billionaires and those who try to pretend they are 1/2 billionaires and billionaires speculate in real estate, all real estate is driven up in value and many are permanently priced out of real estate.
What an awful take. Property taxes are ridiculous and errode what the middle class owns. I pay $650 a month in taxes for the pleasure of living in my own home. I vote no on every single levy.
xhe7ebeu wrote:
I'd love my home to double or triple in value, even with the tax hit. Only renters who don't really matter or outsiders looking to move in too late complain.
Eventually, there is some ceiling hit. It's not unlike a Ponzi Scheme.
For example, let's say housing goes up in an area in the following terms:
Year 1980: 1 teacher income can support 2 kids
Year 1990: 2 teacher incomes can support 1 kid, 1 doctor income can support 2 kids
Year 2000: ...
Year 2010: ...
Year 2020: ...
Year 2030: 2 doctor incomes can support 0 kids
It can't continue any farther than that. The 2-doctor households "settle" with a fixer-upper house only because they assume it's going to appreciate because they assume some 2-CEO couple will settle with in 2040.
xhe7ebeu wrote:
Gentrification is good. The key is to be a homeowner before the gentrification starts. If you aren't you don't matter. The whole point of gentrification is to improve an area and reward the investors. If you own a home or property you win.
I'd love my home to double or triple in value, even with the tax hit. Only renters who don't really matter or outsiders looking to move in too late complain.
So imagine you run a ski business in Colorado. Great your house has doubled in value but that also means your workers are now living 50 miles away because they can't afford to live any nearer. They've been offered a work-from-home job - are they going to continue to work for you or take the new job?
CarlyRaeJepsensMalort wrote:
ski towns and other desirable locations just put a magnifying glass on how bad income inequality has gotten in the US. the rojo lookalike can have a second or third home in crested butte, put it on airbnb or whatever for passive income when he's not there, but the dudes making his overpriced pizza live in trucks? and yet in the interview the pizza guy kind of shrugs it off. this is why we need class consciousness to make a comeback here in burgerland. what do you say, fellow runner anons? are you ready to join hands with your fellow workers and bathe the streets in the blood of the bourgeoisie?
You sure about all this income inequality? Have you actually tried to understand how much of a problem it is? You should challenge your views. You'll be surprised what you find.
Abdelnour also said housing is an issue for employers and employees. The wages Abdelnour can pay people are not enough for some of the room rentals, which he said can cost up to $2,000 a month. Abdelnour said he tries to find more affordable housing for his employees who need it, but it is difficult. “Housing is worse than ever before,” said Abdelnour. “Many [workers] share places that don’t even have kitchens.”