Shelby Houlihan Sets Up a Gofundme and Website

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2 years ago 02/01/2022 11:48pm EST

re: Raddison

Raddison wrote:
pavement88 wrote:
Great point. The running media for the most part has been silent and that is disappointing.
I can only guess that it is out of fear of losing access to the other BTC athletes and/or some kind of fear of Nike.
This is the problem with journalism in any niche area. In order to put out regular issues with "exclusive" content they have to be careful not to bite the hand that feeds them. In automotive journalism car manufacturers would rank the journalists based on their reviews. If you were company friendly you got to review the super deluxe sports models, if somewhat friendly, the mid range models, if you were in their naughty list, the basic models, if you were hostile you didn't get an invite. I'm pretty sure if an running media came down heavily on this fund raising scheme they would be blacklisted.
The running media will only cover this stuff once it breaks in the main stream media. Even then it will be covered in a Gaultesque style.

I used to work in the media, it's very high-school like. The more senior reporters got to ask the first questions at press conferences and they had an order of chairs in which you sat in (similar to orchestra chairs, first chair, second, etc.).

2 years ago 02/01/2022 11:52pm EST

re: Don'tMakeSense

Don'tMakeSense wrote:
another perspective wrote:
BUT
All that aside.
For all the concerns I have with the process, what the actual fork and knife is this go fund me. She paid $300,000 for this case? She had 300k that was liquid, near liquid, or easily borrowed that she could throw at this and now she's trying to recoup it? She was probably one of the most well off athletes in the whole sport (Americans being disproportionately well paid vs rest of world, and she was near the top of the US pyramid). Per her insta, she drives a new Jeep Rubicon or wrangler (2019 model can go second hand for 50k), and also has a Volkswagen van that she used to go van camping with this summer. She has two cars and she is having a go fund me? Does she have more than two properties? Investments? Does she have a 9-5? We don't know!
If she had said how she had to sell her house and two cars to try prove her innocence and was trying to train through a 9-5, and that after all that she was 300k in debt still, then maybe a gofundme would be more appropriate. But there is no evidence to suggest thats the case.
Thanks for this. I had forgotten about her two cars. She probably is trying to maintain her lifestyle and not stoop down to lesser living conditions.

at some point, insurance, maintenance, etc. will cost her. VW vans break down and the Jeeps are Chrysler quality. She also may have student loans.

2 years ago 02/02/2022 12:12am EST

re: jecht

Those VW vans have skyrocketed in value in the past couple of years. They can sell for up to $80k for an early 1970s model. Let's say it's worth $40-50k + her Jeep (another $40-50k)...Her 2 vehicles are worth up to $80-$100k.

2 years ago 02/02/2022 4:50am EST

re: ALH359

She was a national champion and a 12x All American. She doesn't have student loans.

2 years ago 02/02/2022 5:27am EST

re: jecht

jecht wrote:on the alleged cheating, etc.

"alleged" cheating, lol. And we are back to square one, as if she hadn't tested positive and been banned for the full four years for intentional doping and lost in arbitration.

2 years ago 02/02/2022 5:59am EST

re: jecht

Anyone from the darkside have insight into how much her drug/PED habit costs to maintain?

2 years ago 02/02/2022 7:21am EST

re: LOwly

Either it was a simple testo cream (contaminated with nandro), then the costs are almost negligible, or a complex designer cocktail, then BTC would most likely be the (unofficial) organizer and payer.

Given how BTC reacted when she got caught, my money is on the latter (which would also explain her other high androgen levels).

2 years ago 02/22/2022 5:32pm EST

re: casual obsever

Over $15,000. Its certainly helping her run fast the last couple of weeks.

2 years ago 02/22/2022 6:41pm EST

re: 4:59

Over 5% of the way there...time for Uncle Phil to kick in the other 95%

2 years ago 04/15/2022 4:33pm EDT

re: oldschoollrc

Shelby is still receiving donations--thats great. I'm glad I contributed three times and bought a dozen burrito track club shirts.

2 years ago 04/16/2022 11:14am EDT

re: casual obsever

casual obsever wrote:
Either it was a simple testo cream (contaminated with nandro), then the costs are almost negligible, or a complex designer cocktail, then BTC would most likely be the (unofficial) organizer and payer.
Given how BTC reacted when she got caught, my money is on the latter (which would also explain her other high androgen levels).

What other raised androgen levels do you refer to?

1 year ago 04/17/2022 12:51am EDT

re: casual obsever

casual obsever wrote:
Either it was a simple testo cream (contaminated with nandro), then the costs are almost negligible, or a complex designer cocktail, then BTC would most likely be the (unofficial) organizer and payer.
Given how BTC reacted when she got caught, my money is on the latter (which would also explain her other high androgen levels).

What other raised androgens.

1 year ago 04/18/2022 1:08am EDT

re: casual obsever

casual obsever wrote:
Either it was a simple testo cream (contaminated with nandro), then the costs are almost negligible, or a complex designer cocktail, then BTC would most likely be the (unofficial) organizer and payer.
Given how BTC reacted when she got caught, my money is on the latter (which would also explain her other high androgen levels).

What other other raised androgens does casual observer refer to; I am fascinated.

1 year ago 04/18/2022 1:34am EDT

re: avonaioen

avonaioen wrote:
Someone read through the website for me, I can't it's so ridiculous.
Just accept your ban and move on.
Here is the link.
https://www.clearshelby.com

What a piece of crap. Absolutely zero respect for her.

1 year ago 04/18/2022 1:59am EDT

re: avonaioen

Why does she still hold the American records in the 5k and 1500 if she’s a convicted doper?

There’s probably an explanation but id have just assumed that once someone is busted for being a drugs cheat,all the results and records get wiped??

1 year ago 04/18/2022 2:28am EDT

re: FatScottishJogger

FatScottishJogger wrote:
Why does she still hold the American records in the 5k and 1500 if she’s a convicted doper?
There’s probably an explanation but id have just assumed that once someone is busted for being a drugs cheat,all the results and records get wiped??

nope. all results prior to testing positive still count cause there’s no way to prove when the doping began.

1 year ago 04/18/2022 2:46am EDT

re: FatScottishJogger

FatScottishJogger wrote:
Why does she still hold the American records in the 5k and 1500 if she’s a convicted doper?
There’s probably an explanation but id have just assumed that once someone is busted for being a drugs cheat,all the results and records get wiped??

That would be a harsh punishment considering the evidence.

They pick a start date based on the evidence they have, which in this case was a one time sample above the threshold, in the off-season in December (no results on or after that day until the provisional suspension).

1 year ago 04/18/2022 3:31am EDT

re: FatScottishJogger

FatScottishJogger wrote:
Why does she still hold the American records in the 5k and 1500 if she’s a convicted doper?
There’s probably an explanation but id have just assumed that once someone is busted for being a drugs cheat,all the results and records get wiped??

Because then the PINK guys would be too mad and probably cry.

1 year ago 04/18/2022 3:32am EDT

re: FatScottishJogger

FatScottishJogger wrote:
Why does she still hold the American records in the 5k and 1500 if she’s a convicted doper?
There’s probably an explanation but id have just assumed that once someone is busted for being a drugs cheat,all the results and records get wiped??

Same reason why Koch still holds a record.

1 year ago 04/18/2022 3:38am EDT

re: FatScottishJogger

FatScottishJogger wrote:
Why does she still hold the American records in the 5k and 1500 if she’s a convicted doper?
There’s probably an explanation but id have just assumed that once someone is busted for being a drugs cheat,all the results and records get wiped??

Probably the same reason why all the fake powerlifting records exist.. And all of the fake powerlifters have like millions of followers all over instagram and twitter..

Because you know if according to them anything accomplished on steroids counts.

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