Scientists mystified, wary, as Africa avoids COVID disaster

yes yes yes yes wrote:

energeticlotuseater wrote:

Africans are not nearly as fat as Americans and obesity in most of Africa is almost non-existent. This keeps Covid deaths way down.

Africans also test way less and uses much less social media than Americans do. The constant Covid testing for everyone who has sniffles and the constant covid fear mongering on social media is fueling the Covid hysteria.

those factors wouldn't influence the lower rates of infection or lower death rates that they are reporting than other countries.

* I am referring to your last paragraph, for clarafication.

You must enter a username.. wrote:

Yet another jamin thread he starts and never posts again. ... Meaning that he is definitely posting here (trolling) but under other names, and supporting his first post and denigrating it. Building interest in himself.

Well he needs all the help he can get don't he?

Couch Potato wrote:

jamin wrote:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/scientists-mystified-wary-africa-avoids-074905034.html

We're currently on 2,9 million cases in South Africa . Morocco is next with 900K cases. The rest of Africa has very low numbers. It just doesn't make sense to me either. The only difference between SA and other African countries (that I've been to) is that while we stuff our fat faces with take outs, they eat healthy foods with little meat.

Hey man, don't adopt American's self-hate!

yes yes yes yes wrote:

energeticlotuseater wrote:

Africans are not nearly as fat as Americans and obesity in most of Africa is almost non-existent. This keeps Covid deaths way down.

Africans also test way less and uses much less social media than Americans do. The constant Covid testing for everyone who has sniffles and the constant covid fear mongering on social media is fueling the Covid hysteria.

those factors wouldn't influence the lower rates of infection or lower death rates that they are reporting than other countries.

If you test less for Covid you will obviously show lower Covid infection rates. Africans probably have Covid in similar numbers than the United States they just aren’t testing nearly as much (in pure numbers the USA tests way more than any other country in world.)

Obesity absolutely contributes to higher chances of a Covid fatality. Obesity is much less prevalent in Africa than the United States. Thus, lower death rates in Africa.

It's overly simplistic to think that the low death rate is due primarily to obesity. In the US, obesity increases risk of death by about 34%. That's very significant, but it's not nearly enough to account for Central Africa's low death rate.

Seroprevalence studies show that Africa has about the same infection rate as the US and Europe, but the death rate is far, far less.

Example: Nigeria's population is 200 million... roughly 2/3rds of the US's 330 million. However, US deaths stand at 768,000 while Nigeria's reported deaths are less than 3,000 (2,973 IIRC). Removing obesity would reduce US deaths to maybe 500k. That's still more than 15x the death rate in Nigeria.

Something big besides obesity is at play here. I suspect it has something to do with malaria and widespread prophylactic use of antimalarial drugs, but discussing antimalarial drugs quickly devolves into choosing political sides. We need more research ASAP because people are dying and the world's experts are ignoring the promising outcomes in Africa. Researchers from all over the world should be converging on Nigeria (and the rest of Africa) to figure this out!!!

Great observations. Its fascinating to say the least. This media needs voices like yours. Thanks

How about what the article i posted above sites?:

"1. Quick Action

2. Public Support

3. Young population - and few old-age homes

4: Favorable climate

5: Good community health systems"

One Amish leader said they don't have a covid pandemic because they don't have TVs.

Fisky brings up some good points, some not so good, but the article you posted is something I brought up in another thread as well and it got ignored too. Most letsrunners have a hard-on for entirely attributing everything wrong in society to obesity and pretty much obesity alone. Anything else gets dismissed as an evil liberal conspiracy theory

Sham 69 wrote:

Just because so many black people happen to be in the continent of Africa does NOT mean it's racist to point out that Africa doesn't have that much indoor ventilation! I bet you guys didn't know that WHITE PEOPLE live in South Africa. By the way, there are A LOT of black people in the United States who have indoor ventilation. This isn't about race. 👍🏻

Are you 12?

Ray Cyst wrote:

Sham 69 wrote:

Just because so many black people happen to be in the continent of Africa does NOT mean it's racist to point out that Africa doesn't have that much indoor ventilation! I bet you guys didn't know that WHITE PEOPLE live in South Africa. By the way, there are A LOT of black people in the United States who have indoor ventilation. This isn't about race. 👍🏻

Are you 12?

Are you serious? You're on letsrun, surely you know how to diagnose troll posts by now.

Yes, the presumption of this thread is incorrect. We have a lot of reasons why this might be the case..

Furthermore it is likely that Africa is not counting Covid very well.

A new analysis by WHO has concluded that the vast majority of cases of COVID-19 in Africa are not being detected. At time of the analysis, Oct 10, 2021, Africa had recorded around 8·4 million SARS-CoV-2 infections, and 217 000 deaths (the continent has since reported another 200 000 or so infections and 2000 deaths). WHO calculated that the true number of infections was seven times higher than the reported figure The same analysis showed that two in three deaths from COVID-19 are not being registered in Africa. .

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(21)00504-X/fulltext

Hardloper wrote:

Sham 69 wrote:

It's because they're outside all day. There are no bars in Africa. When it get's too hot they just sit under a tree. COVID spreads in indoor buildings with ventilation, but people in Africa don't have this.

#Geography

#TheThirdWorld

#ChristianityRocks

I've read there's actually not even a word for "Covid" in the African language

Another more than slightly r a c i s t post from you h-loper.

* Covid is not a real word in any language.

* There is no so-called African language.

* Obviously, there are dozens of languages spoken in Africa.

* If a person is fluent in Arabic, English and French, a person will be able to communicate well with over 90% of Africans.

Another more than slightly ... wrote:

* Covid is not a real word in any language.

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this word that I just typed and everyone knows the meaning is not a real word!!!

Another more than slightly ... wrote:

* If a person is fluent in Arabic, English and French, a person will be able to communicate well with over 90% of Africans.

so a population of 1.2 billion is covered by languages spoken by 400 million?

your math is off buddy... NOW who is being racist?

correctomundo wrote:

Another more than slightly ... wrote:

* If a person is fluent in Arabic, English and French, a person will be able to communicate well with over 90% of Africans.

so a population of 1.2 billion is covered by languages spoken by 400 million?

your math is off buddy... NOW who is being racist?

Are you h-loper or h-loper's b!tch? Who told you only 400 million spoke Arabic, English & French?

correctomundo wrote:

Another more than slightly ... wrote:

* Covid is not a real word in any language.

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this word that I just typed and everyone knows the meaning is not a real word!!!

Did you forget or did you never know?

The virus is Novel Corona Virus Disease 2019.

Seroprevalence studies look at antibodies in a random sample of people and from that, estimate the percentage of the overall population that has been affected. Throughout most African nations, seroprevalence is about the same as the US and Europe. That is, the US, Europe, and Africa have about the same percentage of infections, i.e., the same percentage of cases (even though reporting is lower in Africa).

The point is that Africans have a FAR LOWER hospitalization and death rate. Ex: 3,000 deaths out of 200 million citizens in Nigeria vs. 768,000 deaths out of 330 million citizens in the US. That's 15 deaths/million in Nigeria vs 2,327 deaths/million population in the US.

Thus, points 1, 2, and 5 are invalid. Nigerians still got covid at the same rate as the US, as shown by seroprevalence studies. The real questions are 1) why were these cases so mild that most were unreported and 2) why is the death rate 15,500% greater in the US than Nigeria! That's not a typo. The percentage is so high I had to double-check the math.

Monkeys Skyping wrote:

Hardloper wrote:

I've read there's actually not even a word for "Covid" in the African language

"The African language"?

Actually curious: How likely is it that anyone thinks there's a common language for all of Africa (i.e., that "African" is a language)?