This is a director of ops position, it's basically an office assistant. Let's not pretend you need 20 years of national championships to qualify to plan recruit visits and travel arrangements.
I wasn’t laughing about her lack of experience or job responsibilities. I’m laughing that she’s a DOP for XC only. What does she do from January - June? She’s probably making 50k to work half of the year.
Do you think coaches stop coaching after the season too?
What director of ops jobs have you been looking at that make $50k/year? Please start sending those my way since that's about $15-20k higher than anything I've ever seen posted on the job sites.
It’s amazing what you can do with that new found SEC TV money.
And break NCAA DI rules. Only 6 full time coaches for combined programs and only one director of operations. Not one for track and one for cross.
I don't think you actually know what the rule is. Look at FSU's staff. They have like 4 DOO or Assistant DOO. It's not illegal to have office administrators.
What director of ops jobs have you been looking at that make $50k/year? Please start sending those my way since that's about $15-20k higher than anything I've ever seen posted on the job sites.
There's plenty that pay around that much. Definitely not unheard of.
Talk about exposing your own ignorance LOL Just let it go and stop thinking it is some nefarious intent. If you knew what the current DOPs did for big time programs, you would stop whining. If a HC has the budget it is beneficial to hire as many DOPs as needed. It allows the coaches to coach. Lack of DOPs is how HC's become administrators. and struggle to coach. It is a smart move, if you have the budget.
This will sound like a trolling post, but I swear it isn't! :D I'm registered and upgraded. ;)
Are there ANY High School or College programs that would basically take a volunteer coach? Anyone so desperate that someone not qualified by traditional standards would be brought in to coach because free and better than nothing?
My daughter graduates from a top high school program in 3 years and she hopes to run in college. I don't have anything tying me down to any location and have an online business that supports me. I would love to go into an underdeveloped program and just give it 100% to see how far I could take it.
I wasn't a college runner, didn't major in physiology, and didn't volunteer as graduate assistant for 10 years. :D I was a college swimmer who ran for conditioning, fun, and road races since 12 years old. I hit triathlons hard after college going up to Age Group Nationals. Now I run 6 days a week and a few races a year for fun.
This will sound like a trolling post, but I swear it isn't! :D I'm registered and upgraded. ;)
Are there ANY High School or College programs that would basically take a volunteer coach? Anyone so desperate that someone not qualified by traditional standards would be brought in to coach because free and better than nothing?
My daughter graduates from a top high school program in 3 years and she hopes to run in college. I don't have anything tying me down to any location and have an online business that supports me. I would love to go into an underdeveloped program and just give it 100% to see how far I could take it.
I wasn't a college runner, didn't major in physiology, and didn't volunteer as graduate assistant for 10 years. :D I was a college swimmer who ran for conditioning, fun, and road races since 12 years old. I hit triathlons hard after college going up to Age Group Nationals. Now I run 6 days a week and a few races a year for fun.
This will sound like a trolling post, but I swear it isn't! :D I'm registered and upgraded. ;)
Are there ANY High School or College programs that would basically take a volunteer coach? Anyone so desperate that someone not qualified by traditional standards would be brought in to coach because free and better than nothing?
My daughter graduates from a top high school program in 3 years and she hopes to run in college. I don't have anything tying me down to any location and have an online business that supports me. I would love to go into an underdeveloped program and just give it 100% to see how far I could take it.
I wasn't a college runner, didn't major in physiology, and didn't volunteer as graduate assistant for 10 years. :D I was a college swimmer who ran for conditioning, fun, and road races since 12 years old. I hit triathlons hard after college going up to Age Group Nationals. Now I run 6 days a week and a few races a year for fun.
Start a new thread.
This thread is called "College Track & Field Open Coaching Positions Discussion College Running". That seems like the perfect title, thanks!
This thread is called "College Track & Field Open Coaching Positions Discussion College Running". That seems like the perfect title, thanks!
There's a lot of colleges that would take a volunteer assistant. However, nobody is going to take an unproven volunteer assistant and give them the keys to the team. No college in their right mind would do that. You can expect to be there to assist with whatever the head coach needs and follow their program's philosophy. Depending on whether they like the job you did and how much networking you've been able to do you might be able to land a small job down the line and work your way up.
This thread exists as a consortium for jobs. It isn't a billboard to market yourself. You see the jobs? Apply to them. If you want to volunteer somewhere, look for those positions or shoot an email to the head coach.
This thread is called "College Track & Field Open Coaching Positions Discussion College Running". That seems like the perfect title, thanks!
Actually, you're looking for a position, you don't have position available for someone. And you're unqualified, as you admitted. And asking about HS too. This is a thread discussing actual college openings and viable candidates.
But the answer to your question is to contact coaches of nearby schools to see if they'd like a volunteer assistant coach and massively lower your expectations.
And to be brutally honest, this whole idea sounds like a Hallmark movie. This sort of thing may have worked 30-40 years ago, but now these little schools (that would have had you) are enrollment driven, and the "coach" is, at WORST, an admissions counselor, paid to keep their roster full, rather than develop athletes. It sounds like you think you can roll up at 4pm, talk to the kids, and see them off on their daily run. That's not what its about.
This is to say nothing of your actual ability to coach, but your whole point of view is way, way off. You'd be lucky to be given the keys to a van to drive, never mind being the keys to developing these athletes.
This thread is called "College Track & Field Open Coaching Positions Discussion College Running". That seems like the perfect title, thanks!
But the answer to your question is to contact coaches of nearby schools to see if they'd like a volunteer assistant coach and massively lower your expectations.
I appreciate the input, this is inline with my expectations starting with nothing.
Go for it. That's what I did. Contacted head coaches of schools I was willing to drive to and asked to volunteer. A mid major brought me on, I soaked up all I could. After a few months I was able to be left alone with a group. Did that for a year. By the following year I had landed a paying D2 position. You gotta be relentess!!
What director of ops jobs have you been looking at that make $50k/year? Please start sending those my way since that's about $15-20k higher than anything I've ever seen posted on the job sites.
Stanford's DoP's was making over $100k a few years ago and my guess is now she's closer to $125k at Chapel Hill (I'm not going to bother looking it up). Basically, if you're Ops at the schools with real money, you're going to see some of that money.
What director of ops jobs have you been looking at that make $50k/year? Please start sending those my way since that's about $15-20k higher than anything I've ever seen posted on the job sites.
Stanford's DoP's was making over $100k a few years ago and my guess is now she's closer to $125k at Chapel Hill (I'm not going to bother looking it up). Basically, if you're Ops at the schools with real money, you're going to see some of that money.